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Lexus LS400 1997 32,000m

Not sure I'd take this on but would ethanol proofing be as simple as replacing everything ferrous with non-ferrous metal? I've decided to go down the route of removing the ethanol from the petrol here in the UK, but was thinking about this just to be...extra. As we used to say. Off the top of my head I'd say 2 problems would be dissimiliar metals, and whether replacing steel parts with copper ones is smart.

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It's mainly rubber parts that deteriorate from ethanol contamination and those should be replaced on a car that old anyway.

I've had no problems with my older vehicles running the E10 blend used in the U.S. and some of those date back to the 1960s.


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Posted by: @alex-g

would ethanol proofing be as simple as replacing everything ferrous with non-ferrous metal?

"Simple" {pear}:laugh:

My engine block is ferrous.

And .... why? I don't get it.

 

Posted by: @alex-g

I've decided to go down the route of removing the ethanol from the petrol

sounds like a lot of work.

 

Posted by: @alex-g

replacing steel parts with copper ones is smart.

of course not. two completely different metals with different applications. Copper is so soft you can bend a pipe with your hands or bite into it .


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Posted by: @alex-g

I've decided to go down the route of removing the ethanol from the petrol here in the UK

Are you a chemist, or something? Cars from that era are designed for E10 (10% ethanol). If you want to skip the whole concoction and hassle with "de-alcoholing" gasoline, find a distributor who specializes in selling gas for lawn mowers. I live near a popular lake, and you can get straight gas from B&B Gasoline. They have separate pumps for this purpose. I go to that gas station to get gas for my lawnmowers.

You really need to go back into the early 1970s and earlier to find cars that were not intended for ethanol content. Prior to the introduction of ethanol in gasoline, they had leaded gas, or TEL, short for Tetra Ethyl Lead. If the hoses were not intended for ethanol content, they will become embrittled and crack. 

Ferrous and non-ferrous metal parts don't make really any difference, I don't think. I have a 1999 Ranger 3.0L Vulcan with an old cast iron V6 in it. It's flex-fuel capable, that means you can put E85 in it (85% ethanol, 15% gas).


same here . E85 vehicle. Cast iron V8.
You don't need to be a chemist to remove the ethanol. It washes out with water (along with some other additives too probably). But that's still an enormous hassle. Why bother.


I was more being rhetorical, I guess. You've got me as far as removing ethanol from the gas. That gas pump is supposed to be designed to not let what goes into the tank to be siphoned back out, lol. You can do it, but it's probably a 2+ hour ordeal, not to mention he's always burning some ethanol during the trip home. Haha.


if was going to do it, I'd fill up a bunch of gas cans. trying to get it out of the tank would be pretty silly.


Then, when the ethanol comes out in the water, you need to be careful pouring it into the gas tank. There's not really a clear difference between the gas and the water mixture. I don't think there is, at least.


well if I were to do it, I would use a dip tube to extract the water off the bottom, or I would just decant off the gas, and then use molecular sieves to clean up the traces. Or use a big separatory funnel


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