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| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | Dan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| @R4nier ,I wouldn't say there are "trade-offs to both sides", EV batteries age like milk and that's just chemistry - so naturally EVs last 5-7 years.(people have been talking for decades about "a revolutionary battery technology just around the corner" and it's never true.)Most people aren't buying cars like that, not many people are interested in loosing $8k a year for the entire lifespan of the car.-As far as the cost of gas, in most of the world it's comprised mostly of taxes - and the gov ain't going to give up that revenue that easily:Owners of EVs will pay "USE TAX" and much higher "GREEN ELECTRICITY" prices, we are talking about x3.5 - x5 electricity and about $1,000 a year in "use" tax.-For more info on EV taxation look at this thread: - | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | Chuck Tobias | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| The industry isn't going in that direction due to market demand, they are being pushed into it by governments. Ditto for the "tax credits", they are designed to "nudge" people into electric vehicles that they would not otherwise consider. We'll see when all of the drawbacks of EVs become apparent to the average consumers that get hold of them. You think used car prices are high now? If and when EVs are all one can actually buy new I expect that used gasoline and diesel powered vehicles will be selling for a premium. I'm not going to get into the motivations behind this ridiculous, destructive, and completely unnecessary forced push to electrification since that is not the focus of this forum. | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | Chuck Tobias | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| That "future" is quite a few years off, there is no way to wave a magic wand and get rid of the many millions of gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles. It will take decades, and will certainly not happen in my lifetime. I can guarantee you that I will never own an electric car. I consider "tax credits" to be irrelevant. If EV technology was really any good there would be no need to attempt bribing or pushing people into it. | |||||
| RE: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | Chuck Tobias | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| That $3500 price may be for a "rebuilt" battery (only the bad cells replaced) rather than a new one. | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | DevinKenyon | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| I do very short commutes (maybe 30 miles round trip a day or so). I currently have a 2014 Fiat 500L 6 speed manual and I only have 54,000 miles on it. on weekends i drive one-way about 37 miles to my parents house; so not much driving is involved in my week. Also each car was selling for a little over $7,000 | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | MountainManJoe | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| a new battery is a cool $19k + labour (if you can find one. Ford is out. and if they can find a technician who knows how to do it). That buys a lot of gasoline. | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | MountainManJoe | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| the battery is small, and at that age, you'll be lucky to get 70mi of range out of it. 50 if you want AC. | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | MountainManJoe | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Are you aware that the Focus does not have much of a trunk? They simply stuffed a electric parts into a car platform designed for combustion engines (which is why it was discontinued) | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | MountainManJoe | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| describe the type of driving you do, ie city/highway , distance etc. And what is the price of these cars? | |||||
| Answer to: Used electric car (Nissan Leaf), possible big repair cost | 15Relevance | 5 years ago | infinitifxfan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Yeah that's the issue with EVs, as they age and the batteries wear out, they get really expensive. We have a 2017 Ford Focus Electric with 44 000 km and it still runs great and we still get 185 km as advertised by Ford. We also have a long warranty on the battery and it doesn't end until 2025. We did have a 2008 Honda Civic before that, a great car but it needed some body work done and it wasn't worth putting any money into it, so we sold it to someone who just wanted a cheap car to drive around. My mom really wanted an EV since she wanted to contribute to climate change. | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | Dan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Compared to a battery replacement and the cost to purchase that car? let's say you get 30 UK MPG (25 US MPG), and let's say you're paying 2 euros for every litter, with that traveling the cost to fuel it up is about $38.73 per 100 miles. In other words, the cost to replace a battery is like the fuel to go 103,000 miles. (assuming that what you said is true and you can actually get one for $3,500 + Labor, so at least $4,000. I REALLY DOUBT THAT) ALSO, DO NOT forget that electricity is not cheap at all, so I'd say like 120k miles at least. But let's be honest, you car probably gets over 25 US MPG, and gas prices are temporary. In other words, even with unrealistically cheap batteries, EVs are still expensive prices of junk. If you want to spend less on fuel, get a diesel. | |||||
| Answer to: Ford Focus Electric vs Nissan Leaf | 15Relevance | 4 years ago | Chuck Tobias | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Be sure to run the numbers to see what the payback period is going to be running an electric car versus an economical and reliable gasoline model. Figure in the total cost of the car, a home charging station if needed or desired, and the cost of electricity. Also since you're looking at used vehicles, possible battery replacement after a few years depending on how long you keep it. On the gasoline side, also figure in the cost of maintenance not needed on the electric vehicle such as oil changes. See what the figures say. Depending on the particulars many people may not save as much as they think. (In my own case it's unlikely I would live long enough to see any real savings in buying an electric car, but everyone's situation is different.) By the way, today I was able to drive a friend's Mini electric car and it was a real hoot, like having an electric go-kart that can be driven on the street. (The dream of nearly every kid back in my day.) A really fun toy. I wouldn't buy one though. | |||||
| RE: Nissan Leaf opinions | 15Relevance | 5 years ago | infinitifxfan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| how about a Volkswagen ID4? | |||||
| RE: Nissan Leaf opinions | 15Relevance | 5 years ago | infinitifxfan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| you could but if I were u, I would wait. How long can you wait? | |||||
| RE: Nissan Leaf opinions | 15Relevance | 5 years ago | infinitifxfan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| If it has a better cooling solution (water cooling instead of passive cooling, I think it would be an excellent EV because it is a great package) | |||||