Hey Guys,
I have a few questions so I took my 2020 Kia Forte to the dealer for warranty work because I noticed what looked like condensation getting inside the fog light lenses. The dealer responded by saying that is normal. And it’s not condensation Per se and also because the passenger side seat belt sensor kept going off when there was just a little bit of stuff in the passenger seat. They blew me off basically saying all was normal. I don’t think it is. What do you guys think? Next question is they tried to sell me on the “15,000 mile service” which included an oil change which I had already had done a 1,000 miles ago at the time. But the service also included:
1. Fuel system cleaner
2. Engine oil supplement (what is that?)
3. Tire rotation and balance ( already had that done with the oil change)
4. Cabin air filter with A/C refresh (why would the A/C need refreshed at 15,000 miles?)
5. Fuel induction service
6. Road test
7. Top off fluids
8. Comprehensive vehicle inspection
all this for $349.95 I didn’t do it but should I have it done or some of it done?
1. Fuel system cleaner: Meh. Unless you are having problems.
2. Engine oil supplement (what is that?): Bull Shit.
3. Tire rotation and balance ( already had that done with the oil change): Part of normal maintenance, but you already had it done.
4. Cabin air filter with A/C refresh (why would the A/C need refreshed at 15,000 miles?): Filter might need changing, but that takes like 1 minute, usually. Learn to do the cabin air filter yourself. It really isn't that hard.
I doubt you need an A/C refresh this early.
5. Fuel induction service: Seems too soon, IMHO. Check owners manual.
6. Road test: ---
7. Top off fluids: Good idea to do, but really not that hard. Many dealers do it as part of the oil change.
8. Comprehensive vehicle inspection: Many dealers do this for free w/ oil change, because they want to upsell you on other stuff.
all this for $349.95 I didn’t do it but should I have it done or some of it done? Look at the owners manual. There is a service schedule that will tell you want needs to be done as basic maintenance. Some of these things will line up. Everything else is probably the dealer trying to upsell you.
Apparently engine oil supplements "can help improve the performance and longevity of your engine in a variety of ways. Most improve the viscosity of the engine oil. Some also provide a coating of sorts to the engine internals and others help break up and flush out sludge."
Do you know of any specifically that work well?
I'm always hesitant of adding stuff that can potentially "flush" the engine. I much prefer drain and fill.
I don't know I looked it up because idk either
seems like dealership selling bs but not sure
But I just realized I hope he isn't paying for the road test portion of the service
I put full synthetic oil in my car since I bought it. Even though Kia uses Synthetic blend. Scotty told me if I wanted to use full synthetic then have the oil changed at 2,000 miles and then never go back to synthetic blend after using full synthetic. I have only used Mobil one full synthetic in this car.
Always go by the manufacturer's maintenance schedule, not the dealer.
Is this a GDI engine in this car? The fuel induction service could be referring to the intake port induction cleaning to de-carbon the intake valve. If this is a pure direct injection engine I would recommend doing this every 15K miles especially if you are not using an oil catch can.
I have the induction cleaning done on my Hyundai Genesis Coupe every 15K miles.
Yeah I talked to a mechanic that used to do work on my Jeep Wrangler he said he didn’t recommend the fuel induction service until like 45,000 miles. It’s a 2020 Kia Forte GT-Line 2.0 four cylinder.
At Least have some of it done just to be safe.
Yes but what should be done?
Do a Comprehensive vehicle inspection, Top off fluids , Fuel induction service and Fuel system cleaner and also check the air filter.
For the condensation in fog lights or even in headlamps.
I had experience on a Mercedes C class I had owned before.
It was a brand new c class and got condensation in headlamps since day 1. It drove me crazy because I spent that amount and got a lemon. I brought my car back to dealer I wanted have a good explanation.
Their senior technician explained to me and we double checked on owner manual: the reason was because that’s part of their designs. Manufacture made small hole on headlamp cover, when rock or stone hit the cover at high speed, the hole can let air squeeze out from headlamp to prevent headlamp assembly blasts. In my area, winter is long and rainy, humidity is usually higher than 90%, so condensation is pretty normal in this kind of environment if they have hole on light cover.
Pls double check your fog lights’ design, if they don’t have that particular design, they are lemon, should be replaced under warranty.
