Scotty,
Your show is terrific! Two weeks ago, I went to look at a 2021 Toyota Camry XLE V6. The dealer had none on the lot and said that Toyota was ending production of the Camry V6 in favor of turbo 4s. I have not been able to find any Camry XLE V6s. If you look at autotrader or cars.com, only a 2021 Camry XLE V6s few show up. Have you heard anything about this. Thanks.
It's the trend in the industry that's happening very quickly...Even the Tundra is going away from a V8 to a twin turbo V6. It's the same with manual transmissions they're slowly becoming extinct as well.
It's being forced by government.
Ya that's just going to be the reality for most cars moving forward. Larger engines are going away in favor of smaller turbo engines, hybrid systems, or electric cars - especially on normal, mainstream everyday drivers like the Camry. For reference, Honda has already done this with the Accord by getting rid of the 3.5L V6 and replacing it with a 2.0L turbo engine starting in 2018.
Unfortunately with the Accord they turbocharged both engines for whatever reason. At least with the Camry the base engine will still be naturally aspirated.
I hope it is not true (I have not confirmed yet), but it wouldn’t surprise me. Toyota has slowly rolled out their turbocharged engines starting with a very small selection of their Lexus products, so hopefully they refine and mature the engine technology there before it ripples into all the other Toyota products. I can’t say I am too thrilled (just my opinion), but it’s just a matter of time. They better not use cylinder deactivation at least.
The Sienna is hybrid only
Tacoma will be coming with a twin turbo hybrid V6
Es/Gs would be replaced with a Lexus badged Mirai, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.
Toyota is shooting for 70% of its profits to come from zero-emission vehicles in 9 years.
I feel like this creates a trail for the Camry to become hybrid only in the near future, especially when Toyota wants to increase its fleet fuel economy
Many of the cars in the same platform are switching to hybrid ONLY and some like the ES have been discontinued to be replaced by electric/hybrid/fuel cell vehicles.
@Kerem Isn't the Tundra gonna have the twin turbo hybrid V6 not the Tacoma?
@alvin
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-toyota-tacoma-hybrid-truck-could-be-here-soon/
Yes the Tundra will, but I think the Tacoma will also get it because they will be on the same platform.
https://tfltruck.com/2020/02/will-the-new-toyota-tundra-and-tacoma-use-turbo-power-sources-say-yes/
Again, nothing set in stone yet.
@Kerem Interesting. The Toyota Tacoma's engine is a little bit too far lol. I think either the 3.5L V6 Hybrid or 3.5L V6 single turbocharged or both is good enough for me lol.
I love the engine I have in my 2020 Accord 2.0T Sport.
Turbocharged and based on the Civic Type-R block, it has been fantastic fun to drive as a four door commuter. Consistently over 30MPG on regular fuel, and no cylinder deactivation to worry about.
Maybe I drove an Accord that had issues. My wife was with me and she said my 2007 Accord V6 was quieter and smoother than a 2020 Accord EX-L 2.0T. I looked at that trim because they were discontinuing it for 2021.
Well there's no way an 07 V6 is smoother than the new Accord with the 10-speed. It shifts like butter. And it is extremely quiet. Of course the Sport will have more road noise due to the larger tires so if it is too much for you, step down in trim and get the smaller rims rather than the 19".
@Mod_Man I think Honda's 10 speed automatic is even better than GM and Ford's 10 speed auto. I wonder if Honda makes their own 10 speed not like the ZF 9 speed.
My uncle owned a 2018 Honda Accord Sport with 1.5 turbocharged engine with a CVT. Rides like a dream. I guess it has oil dilution problem.
Have you had any issues with oil dilution with your 2.0 turbo like the Honda 1.5 turbo engine?
I've had very little dilution and it seems to be getting even less as the weather warms. @legendaryslayer Honda does make their 10-speed trans in-house, so it is designed to work with the motor perfectly. So far I am really enjoying it. Definitely better than the Ford/GM 10-speed.
Now is the Ford/GM 10 speed really a good comparison.
No...but that's what was being discussed. {black}:laughingoutloud:
So I think you Should choose Avalon instead. To me this is a strategic move from Toyota. Apparently the existence of Camry V6 resulted in less sale for Avalon.
I drove the Avalon and I prefer the Camry XLE V6. The Camry is actually quieter and tighter than the Avalon in my opinion; not worth an extra $5K.
I haven't heard anything about this, but I wouldn't be surprised either as pretty much every other manufacture has done this with their midsized sedans.
Toyota better not do that....
