Hello, I bought a car and before buying I learned from many of your videos on the subject... I want to replace all the basic things like oil filters etc. but I couldn't find detailed instructions for these things for my car, can you please help?
The car is honda uk civic hatchback 2011 comfort AT
Can I use this oil?
again, all you need to do is follow the manual. It tells you exactly what to use on page 461. There are three conditions:
Recommended Engine Oil
Always use a synthetic motor oil that meets the ACEA specifications, and is the proper viscosity as shown in the following chart. When using synthetic oil, you must follow the oil and filter change intervals shown by the maintenance schedule.
#1
Specifications: They are printed on the preceding page: "Always use an API service SL or higher grade fuel-efficient oil. "
This webpage for this Motul stuff states: API Standards API SERVICE SP
SP is better than SL.
Also, p459 of your manual " It is highly recommended that you use genuine Honda Motor Oil, ‘‘ACEA A1/B1,’’ ‘‘ACEA A3/B3,’’ or ‘‘ACEA A5/B5’’
The motul claims it meets "ACEA Standards ACEA A5/B5"
#2
Proper viscosity. 0w30 is listed on the chart in the manual
#3
Follow the change schedule.
Thank you,
If there will be some kind of problem can I jump on the next oil change to 0w-40?
0w40 is still on the chart for European models.
But if 0w30 gives you problems then there's something with the engine. It's supposed to work fine.
is it okay to put in something different every time
ddac, there's no logical reason to 'change the viscosity' every time you change your oil. Just use 0W-30, it's what Honda recommends for your car at your location.
I had to fill in 3.7 and I did but it reached 1/4 of the gauge..
I'm not sure what you mean by gauge?? Make sure you ALWAYS go by the engine's dipstick.
First, always check your oil level on level ground. There's no need to prefill an oil filter. (It's not necessary, there's enough residual oil left in your engine to prevent any damage upon restart to idle rpm) After draining oil & removing old filter, put a tiny amount of fresh oil on rubber gasket of the new filter and screw it on but firmly, but hand-tight.
When you refill the oil, don't put all 4 bottles in right away, but do put in like 3.5 bottles. Crank the engine and let it idle for a couple of minutes. (Don't rev the engine or anything just let it idle for a minute or 2) Now cut the engine off.
After several 3-4 minutes, check oil level on the dipstick. Don't worry at all about having to add more oil. If it's NOT reading up to the 'full level/mark", slowly add more oil until it reaches the dipstick's 'full' mark, you've done everything correctly.
That's exactly what I did, hope it will be ok
You'll be fine, so will your Honda.
Thank you!
Appreciate all the support and guidance
Not a problem at all, just glad we could help you.
Watch my video. How to make your car last forever. Scotty
Thanks, I'll 🙂
I remember in one of your videos you said Honda should handle like a Honda... If I'm not mistaken, you were talking about the liquids like engine oil, etc... Now I have a small problem... It seems that the local Honda dealer mixes the engine oil with gold and one liter of Honda's 10w-40 synthetic oil costs like almost 4-6 liters of the same oil from other companies... What should I do... I thought maybe talk to a local garage and buy from them but they get it in barrels and the bottom line is I can't really tell what's inside...
Scotty’s archive of videos is extensive, but obviously no single YouTube channel will be comprehensive. Ditto for the other general interest channels (like ChrisFix, 1-A Auto, and so on).
To get the details for your car, you need a shop manual. All Data is probably the gold standard, at least in the US. Watching a video will give you general info and help you visualize the procedure, and the shop manual fills in the exact details, like tool sizes, part numbers, and torque specs.
For a common car like a civic, you can also do a video search for the exact job you want, and there’s a good chance someone has posted it. Might not have the same level of production value as Scotty, but still useful to understand what you are looking at under the car.
Good luck!
I am trying to get the troubleshooting book from Honda UK... The local Honda dealership doesn't care that much about me and the fact that I want to maintain and take care of the vehicle myself
All Data is available on line by subscription, unless it’s blocked in the UK.
these books are great for beginners.
Thanks, I'll do a research about that book
It seems that the local Honda dealer mixes the engine oil with gold
Unless their's something different about oil in the UK..
You can use another brand, you don't have to use only Honda's oil.. Now transmission fluid, yes -use Honda.
Is there a way to choose? There may be some standard or quality mark that is difficult to achieve...
So that I know that the oil I put in is not garbage?
Is Honda's oil also more expensive than the other companies in the UK? XD
Why not use 10W-30 for example?
0w30 flows the best and starts coating the engine quicker when you start up.
I'm in Asia
OK, well should have stated that first. When you said "I am trying to get the troubleshooting book from Honda UK." I assumed you were in the UK. In that case use 0w20
the number before the W is higher, so the oil is thicker at low temp...
the 'w' number is the oil's viscosity index at 40°C
The lower the viscosity, the better for your engine.
I'm in a country where even at the coldest point the temp doesn't reach 0 degrees now what does that mean for the engine
it means the oil wears out quicker and you should change it regularly
Because on the one hand, thicker oil can strain the engine more and thin oil at high temps can not lubricate the engine properly..
20 & 30 weight have close to the same viscosity at operating temperature (100°C).
20 offers a tiny bit better fuel economy than 30, but the manual states you can use either.
Usually the temp in my area is 17-35 degrees Celsius in all seasons
Sure, but engines get hot and have a cooling system to regulate the temperature. The temperature of your engine oil will be approximately 90°C most of the time.
the Honda dealer follows this table of maintenance every 15,000 km or every year...
What is a dealership's pupose?
will it last in the conditions I drive in?
how much do you need it repeated? ... you need to change it according to the owners manual.
difference between the amount of oil without a filter and the amount of oil with a filter and total?
the filter holds oil (0.2L if my math is right). So if you're putting on a dry filter, you need 0.2L more oil
The title says "Change" as in that's the quantity you add when when changing the oil
"*4 = Excluding the oil remaining in the engine" , because when you're changing the oil , there is always a little bit left inside.
So, 'Change, including filter' is the amount you need ... 3.7L
Under the title 'Total' is the quantity for a dry engine. That means you had the engine out of the car to be taken apart and worked on and there's no oil in it.
Oh... It's strange that they wrote it like that... Does it matter if I drain the oil in the car straight or at an angle towards the drain opening?
most people do it flat so the car doesn't try to roll away
Bottom line: the oil has to show the correct level on the dipstick when you're done (when parked on level ground).
I'm sure the checking procedure is also explained in the manual.
I understand, thank you very much
Is there a way to choose?
Use a major brand that will be available for you to purchase again. Any name brand full synthetic oil should be fine, do make sure and use the recommended viscosity for your vehicle.
standard or quality mark
Check out the FAQ under Maintenance; The "Oil Specifications" part will indicate the current standards & how to identify that standard.
Is Honda's oil also more expensive than the other companies in the UK?
Personally, I have no idea "what prices are" in the UK.
can you help me?
I went through it...
Now in the owner's book of my country oil is not recommended.
In the book I got from Honda UK 0W-30 is recommended
Now I have a question...
In my country the lowest temperature is maybe 10 degrees Celsius and the highest 40. Is there a better oil that I can take that will be more healthy and fuel efficient?
I don't remember from where, but from somewhere it stuck in my head that I need the 10W-30 oil...
Now he's a bit thick isn't he?
I don't know what to choose, I've been learning about the car for the last few days, every spare minute, and sometimes I feel like my brain is about to explode from all the information
(I think 10W-30 is what it says on the oil cap but I can't verify that right now)
So that I know that the oil I put in is not garbage?
yes that's why oil has specifications on the bottle. Please read the FAQ oil topic.
In the book I got from Honda UK 0W-30 is recommended
use that
Why not use 10W-30 for example?
I think what they listed is more suitable for Europe...I'm in Asia
If I understand correctly, the number before the W is higher, so the oil is thicker at low temp...
I'm in a country where even at the coldest point the temp doesn't reach 0 degrees now what does that mean for the engine if I play with these numbers...
Because on the one hand, thicker oil can strain the engine more and thin oil at high temps can not lubricate the engine properly...
Usually the temp in my area is 17-35 degrees Celsius in all seasons
OK, well should have stated that first. When you said "I am trying to get the troubleshooting book from Honda UK." I assumed you were in the UK. In that case use 0w20
Sorry, the vehicle is simply imported from the UK...
In that case use 0w20
can you explain yourself
Why did you choose a lower value?
The lower the viscosity, the better for your engine.
But there is also a viscosity that is too low, isn't it?
I would really appreciate it if you could explain all your considerations.
This topic is very interesting to me and I want to maintain the condition of the vehicle
(And one more thing that can be added to the consideration...
I drive at a reasonable/high speed 🙂 )
In that case use 0w20
can you explain yourself
Why did you choose a lower value?
that's what the manual recommends, right? since you're not in Europe.
It actually sounds like your car isn't very picky about oil. You could probably just use whatever is cheaper.
But there is also a viscosity that is too low, isn't it?
when hot, yes.
at 40°C it cannot be too thin.
There are many great articles about oil on the internet. It's a bit much to cover here.
at 40°C it cannot be too thin.
Do you think 0W-20 will do it?
a question
Do you think 0W-20 will do it?
a question
Can it be said that 0W-20 compared to 5W-20 will lubricate the engine better at cold start because its viscosity value is lower at low temp and then when the engine reaches working temp they are more or less the same?
Now I also saw that it is written in the book "A very low-viscosity, fuel-efficient
0W-20 oil is the preferred engine
lubricant for your vehicle."
I was able to check and according to the official agency in my country, The oil that is filled is 5W-40 😐
What do you think?(And each maintenance is every 15,000 km)
Can it be said that 0W-20 compared to 5W-20 will lubricate the engine better at cold start
a tiny, tiny bit better yes. Probably unnoticeable.
I was able to check and according to the official agency in my country
I don't know what this means
And each maintenance is every 15,000 km)
cut that in half
I don't know what this means
The Honda dealership puts 5W-40 oil in the engines that come in for service...
cut that in half
And why cut it in half?
The Honda dealership puts 5W-40 oil in the engines that come in for service...
Dealerships don't make cars. They just sell them. Listen to the manufacturer. Dealers know that heavier oil hides noises and sells more cars.
And why cut it in half?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3iXy8T8WE
Please read the FAQ oil topic.
have you looked yet?
have you looked yet?
Yes
About the maintenance...
The book says p.446+
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XWBxBpZiM5x0QCsO60SZqJ1PVKIY2YbI/view?usp=drivesdk
The book says p.446+
The book says 'normal' 10k and 'severe' '5k'. I don't see 15,000km.
You also need to read the fine print.
Only severe schedule is required in some countries: refer to the local warranty booklet that came with your vehicle.
did you check that? It sounds like you live in a warm country. That's a severe condition.
Refer to page 449 for replacement information under severe conditions.
did you read that?
If you drive only the highway, you can extend your change interval. City driving? Well that falls under (C.) which is a severe condition.
short trips, mountains, dusty roads, etc. that's all severe conditions.
Yes, you seem to be right...
I will start with 7.5 km and see how it goes
But if you saw B, it looks a bit disturbing because in the summer the temperature is between 30-40 degrees
Another thing, why is it written there?
"Replace engine oil and oil filter Normal/Severe"
What is the difference?
And each maintenance is every 15,000 km)
@imperator is recommending you change the oil and filter ever 7500 kilometers. It is excellent advice.
when did I say that?
At the bottom of this post 29/06/2023 4:04 pm
Posted by: @ddac
Can it be said that 0W-20 compared to 5W-20 will lubricate the engine better at cold start
mmj: a tiny, tiny bit better yes. Probably unnoticeable.
Posted by: @ddac
I was able to check and according to the official agency in my country
mmj: I don't know what this means
Posted by: @ddac
And each maintenance is every 15,000 km)
mmj: cut that in half
hehe yeah I guess technically that is half, but I was just ballparking .
He should follow the manual. If his driving conditions are bad enough, then he might need to do it as often as 5000km.
Do you think that despite the weather conditions and fast driving style and (driving conditions according to the manufacturer)
Can I use this oil?
https://www.motul.com/il/iw/products/8100-eco-nergy-0w30
Or better still go with 0W-40?
Can I use this oil?
Yes.
Personally, I would be more concerned about increasing the frequency of my oil changes, rather than whether its 0w-30 or 0W-40 weight oil because either oil weight can be used in your vehicle.
concerned about increasing the frequency of my oil changes
What do you mean? Why?
As stated above, you can use 0w-30 or 0W-40, either will be fine and more affordable than "Honda Gold".
Then, I was trying to impress upon you the significance of what @imperator suggested; increase the frequency of your oil changes. Don't use "normal driving conditions" schedule. Use a " severe conditions" schedule, it's important.
In my country, the Honda dealer follows this table of maintenance every 15,000 km or every year...
If I treat the car according to "Severe" will it be enough or is it better every 5000 km?
Regarding the oil, if I use this oil ( https://www.motul.com/il/iw/products/8100-eco-nergy-0w30) , will it last in the conditions I drive in?I'm afraid that 30 degrees and sometimes even 40 might be a bit much for him... And another thing, I don't remember if I said, but the car is second hand with 160,000 km....
If I treat the car according to "Severe" will it be enough or is it better every 5000 km?
With normal driving conditions, Scotty recommends oil changes every 5000 miles (about 8046km)
So normally, a 7500km oil change would be fine. But as @imperator noted, your driving conditions should be considered as 'severe conditions'. It's better for you to change your oil every 5000 kilometers, about 3107 miles.
(The link you provided did not work for me)
Summation: You should use a quality 0W-30 oil. Change it every 5000 kilometers.
The link you provided did not work for me)
Try this one
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1id7_sGPUQP6jD44kEf_oL1JDZ75yk3P5/view?usp=drivesdk
What is a dealership's pupose?
Yes you right XD
how much do you need it repeated?
Sorry for asking so many times I just want to understand and be sure... I will probably change the oil in a few days and then after 5000 km Just a little afraid to put 0w-30 oil in the car and cause some damage even though what was before was 5w-30...
The oil is recommended by Honda. Why would Honda make you damage the car?
You're right about that, simply considering the conditions in which I drive, the style of driving and the age and the distance the vehicle has traveled I thought it might be better to take something a little thicker
the manufacturer doesn't say "use thicker oil after x distance, or y conditions"
will probably change the oil in a few days and then after 5000 km Just a little afraid to put 0w-30 oil in
No reason to be afraid. You've received sound advice from the community.
Thanks guys
Last question =/
I have a 1.8 engine, I need option 6, but what is the difference between the amount of oil without a filter and the amount of oil with a filter and total?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1isE-yDVzwO5zcsbpObn7EOpdiPLsE8_L/view?usp=drivesdk
I don't know why that's put in an owners manual! @imperator ???
?
What do you mean? =|
Oil and filter should always changed together. Don't really know why the other values are necessary for your purposes,
So the bottom line is I need the amount listed in Total?
I found out now that up to 75K km the vehicle was serviced at the dealership and they filled it with 5W-40 Honda engine oil. If I use 0w-30 now, won't it cause damage? The car is now at 150k km