hello i want to have an idea of the reliability / maintenance costs of owning a gelly car , how good they are in terms of money value , i know that gelly holds more than 75% of Volvo and aprox 10 % of Daimler group (benz) so maybe this will give more quality to the cars
I'm not really concerned about high performance driving .i want to get one for normal usage (go to work , take the kids, weekends ..)
no doubt Toyota (Japanese in general ) is the king of reliability but is it worth to give the Chinese a try regarding the price of the car and the parts
if your are seeing this scotty i whish you give us a detailed video about it
I would never put my kids in a Chinese car
The car you posted in the first pic says "AutoVAZ" that's a Russian car.
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Last year the Euroncap test crash worthiness scores were pretty much dominated by the Chinese...
Only one non Chinese cars managed to get between the ranks of the top scoring (safety-wise) cars and it's a luxury EV Volkswagen...
https://imgur.com/a/X8v6aTv
nice cherry picked results. Now show the "Landwind" (2 stars)
Or the "Brilliance" which will also most likely kill you. (1 star)
https://www.motortrend.com/features/chinesebuilt-brilliance-bs6-not-so-brilliant-says-europe-772/
No. My experience tells me to never ever set foot in a Chinese car..
Cripes! That's even worse than a half-century old Gremlin!
@dan
pay less attention to paper signs obviously attached with sticky tape, and more to the car
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Breaking news: old car models intended for third world countries are not as built with safety in mind. Shocker.
2008 is not that old, but there are plenty of more contemporary examples.
Breaking news: lots of people drive old cars. You should know this from reading forum questions.
Breaking news: I do not think OP is asking about a 15 year old 3rd world car.
This is a third world Nissan crash test conducted in 2013:
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Meanwhile, new Geelys are performing better than I expected:
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We're really re-living how people doubted Japanese cars when they came out due to the first ones being garbage. huh - "I ain't putting my kids in a Toy-ota or what ever they're called"
Realistically a new 1st world market Chinese cars seem to perform better in crash tests than new western cars.
I believe that doubt is a very healthy thought process to have, and I'm not so quick to forget.
The Japanese value life. The Chinese do not.
Earning trust takes time.
I agree about doubt.
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I'm just much more exposed to Chinese cars, they've been on the market picking up pace in recent years (1/6 new cars, best #1 selling car, 3/10 best selling cars , 3/10 top selling brands, in 2023 where I live) for a while here and they turned out much better than I ever thought they would or even could.
Honestly, if a person would tell me what I'm saying here I too would be very doubtful.
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I also must point out that the statement on Japanese values is a also somewhat doubtful knowing history and Japanese culture... 😉
I could show you some horrific videos (current, not historic) of what they do to each other, which would suggest otherwise. But I'd rather not be reminded. In a city where 20% are Chinese, I'm pretty exposed.
reliability / maintenance costs of owning a gelly car
No one really knows yet.
I have a Geely, so far it's good - but it's an EV.
For an ICE Geely, they tend to come with Volvo B3154T series engines and a lot of them with Link&Co/Aisin transmissions - I do not know how well that would hold up long term.
money value
Depends on what car, for what price, etc.
75% of Volvo and aprox 10 % of Daimler group
And 50% of Smart cars - they're currently their best products.
is it worth to give the Chinese a try regarding the price of the car and the parts
I do not know.
It depends on what you're looking at and how much you're willing to risk.
If you're not willing to take a risk, just get a Toyota.
The car you posted in the first pic says "AutoVAZ" that's a Russian car.
The Geely CK is a 4-door, 5-seater subcompact sedan produced by the Chinese manufacturer Geely from May 2005 to January 2016. The CK's Chinese name, Ziyoujian, stands for "Freedom Ship" or "Free Cruiser". It was sold as the Geely Otaka on the Russian market in 2007-2008. Nowadays the car is sold as the Gleagle CK in the Chinese domestic market, part of Geely's recent proliferation of brands.
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The Geely CK 1.3L in its most basic version for Latin America with no airbags received 0 stars for adult occupants and 2 stars for infants from Latin NCAP in 2010.
Crash test is organised by local magazines, and sponsored by Autovaz.
The name translated to freedom vessel, but it has earned the nickname "death vessel" (coffin)
"The driver has 90% chances to die."
Interesting - apparently that’s a Geely CK, a third world car and it performed about as well as a Ford F-150 from the same area.
Here’s a new Geely btw:
third world is right. I would never buy either of these. I've seen too much Chinese "craftsmanship"
The old one performed as well as an 8 year old Mercedes-Benz at time of launch btw.
Yeah too I also wouldn’t buy Mercedes Benz or Ford “craftsmanship” their old cars fold like paper!
here come all the what-abouts
Guess who Geely love to copy?
That was an example of how judging Ford or Mercedes by the crash worthiness of an old car is useless.
Nowadays, Geely owns part of Daimler-Benz, and Mercedes-Benz engineers just engineered 3 Geely cars to be sold under a joint venture - and those outperformed all western cars in crash tests (other than the VW ID7)