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Hi Scotti

I have a 2021 Kia Sorento. It went in for it's 1st service. The Dealer offered to exchange the air in the tires for Nitrogen at a cost of 45.00 per tire. Is it worth the $180?

Air is 70% nitrogen to begin with. Is there any down side? Is nitrogen flammable? I envision the Hindenburg with me in it.

 

Should I test it out on my wife's car first? Just don't tell my wife. {black}:smile:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytPToUTd_t0


The narrator in this video keeps saying "Get this Scotti". Is it possible? Where is Rod Serling when you need him?


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I'm not going to get into the technical stuff, but no, $180 would not be well spent on a nitrogen fill.

My Honda came with nitrogen filled tires, and it is great not to have the constant pressure changes that come with the crazy weather temps we have been having. Meanwhile I feel like a pit crew member as I'm constantly adding/subtracting air from my wife's Camry tires. She insists that the numbers on the TPMS display in the car MUST be all the same. Do you know how hard that is to do? Have you ever tried to make them all match? Drives me nuts.


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Hahaha you might as well remit your $180 to a certain Nigerian prince, as service charges for the transfer of your unclaimed inheritance. 

https://youtu.be/k_am_QbfP6U


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It's a scam. If you're that eager to get rid of $180 in return for nothing you can just send it to me! 😎  


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It isn't dangerous but is also isn't worth the $180.00 either. The only way I would ever use nitrogen is if I got it for free.


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No nitrogen isn’t flammable, it’s an inert gas. And for normal road use it really isn’t worth the price. Way overhyped. 

What are the effects of using pure nitrogen to inflate tires?

  • Nitrogen is a gas and is still affected by changes in ambient temperature (about one psi for every 10° Fahrenheit). Nitrogen filled tires will require pressure be added during the fall/winter months as ambient temperatures and tire pressures drop. Nitrogen is good but can't change the laws of physics.
  • Nitrogen reduces the loss of tire pressure due to permeation through rubber over time by about 1/3. This helps maintain the vehicle's required tire pressures a little longer, but doesn't eliminate the need for monthly tire pressure checks. This is good for people who don't maintain their vehicles well.<
  • Nitrogen is a dry gas and will not support moisture that could contribute to corrosion of the tire's steel components (bead, sidewall reinforcement and belts) due to the absence of moisture over extended periods of time. However it's important to remember that atmospheric pressure is constantly pushing oxygen and moisture into the rubber from the outside of the tire. This is especially good for low mileage drivers who don't wear out their tires quickly or those that run average annual mileages but use long wearing radial (60K and 80K warranted) tires.
  • Nitrogen assures more consistent pressure increases due to increases in operating temperatures in a racing environment because of the absence of moisture. This is especially good for participants in track days, high-performance drivers education schools and road racing.
  • Drivers should use standard air if pressure adjustments are required when a local source of nitrogen can't be found during a trip. While this reduces the benefit of higher nitrogen content, it is far better than running the tires underinflated in search of a source. Often the original nitrogen provider will refill the tires for free or a nominal cost when the driver returns to his hometown.

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You are asking about nitrogen and show us a hydrogen accident video. I'll tell that your wife 😂😆😉


@g-t lolll


In the original post I asked whether Nitrogen was Flammable. I have since found out it is not. Please don't tell my wife anyway {black}:smile:


I know. Hinderburg was filled with hydrogen. And I was joking. You can tell that your mother-in-law. She will then tell your wife. 😂😆
Btw, aircraft tyres are filled with nitrogen.


On a side note I think of the Hindenburg every-time Scotty says something about Hydrogen Fuel cell cars. I know some places have those quick fill hydrogen pumps to. I still see people smoking occasionally at a gas pump. Hydrogen Fuel cells scare the bejeezus outta me. No different than those propane conversion kits in the 80s. We had a guy in our neighborhood who had to propane tanks in bed of his El Camino. Always flicking cigarettes out his window. 🤣🤣


@thumpy I remember a documentary about Hindenburg I watched years ago. It mentioned Hindenburg had had an insulated room for smoking.
I am sometimes concerned about quality and safety too.


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Sound like my dad. He would have me change his oil. If the level on the dip stick was a 32th of an inch above full he would have me drain it until it was centered in the range. That's on a 78 dodge Aspen with a slant six. I once tried to pre-measure the oil in the 5 quart container so there was 4.5 quarts but then he insisted he watch as I unsealed the container. He is dead now and I have trained my daughter to change my oil (I have no sons). She handles a impact wrench pretty good for a 15 year old. She put a starter in my Santa Fe when I was out of town and my wife was stranded one time. If the oil is a little high we leave well enough alone. 


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I think you should fill your tires with helium to make the car lighter. Instant horsepower. 😆  


Towing something like this should not be a problem 😂😆


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When you get new tires next, go to Costco. AFAIK, they fill it with nitrogen from the onset. 

Otherwise it is not worth that. 

it’s one of those things that is great to have but not worth the extra expense. 


Sounds like Nitrogen is OK but the price is out of line. Thanks all the F.O.S.K's who contributed to the response. Acronym F.O.S.K stands for followers of Scotti Kilmer. Its like SCOTUS means "Supreme Court Of The United States" or OWACA "The Organization Without A Cool Acronym".


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There's no reason to do it. It's a Kia 3 Row, not a race car that could benefit from 50 grams less spinning weight 😆 Air costs $180 less so I'd use that.


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