I notice that newer Toyota’s are coming with more and more plastic.
Scotty criticized BMW in this video for using plastic: https://youtu.be/-1g7nWU1Cig
But now, Toyota is using plastic where BMW was criticized for using it.
Are the cost of repairs for Toyota’s going to go up because of all this plastic? Is Toyota quality going to go down? Is Toyota turning into BMW in terms of becoming money pits due to plastic parts?
Are the cost of repairs for Toyota’s going to go up because of all this plastic?
plastic parts are cheaper
Is Toyota quality going to go down?
It already has
Is Toyota turning into BMW in terms of becoming money pits due to plastic parts?
You've owned both. You tell us.
The BMW was a PITA. Plastic everything. And they wear out, and are expensive.
With my Prius, it is a little older, so it doesn’t have as much plastic parts.
Not mine, but I do drive a RAV4 Hybrid regularly (not to mention a regular RAV4 and CRV). They are too new, and not the age of the BMW when stuff was wearing out. So from my POV, it’s a waiting game.
I will tell you that on the RAV4 hybrid with the adaptive cruise control, the windshield cost a ton to repair, not because of the parts, but because of the configuration of the adaptive cruise control. Good thing insurance took care of that. But that’s a windshield and not plastic.
Who’s not using plastic these days? Peak reliability for Toyota was many years ago. Still, I would buy one over all other brands.
Totally.
They are all turning into BMW. Which is why I won't buy any vehicle made after 2005.
Americans can be lucky that some old cars hold long enough.
Toyotas and Hondas are far better than BMWs.
Hahaha. I joke around with my friends that the golden era for cars (and Toyota Honda specifically) was 1996-2006ish. I guess I wasn’t too far off with your 2005 estimate.
New enough to have OBDII diagnostics, but old enough NOT to have all the additional things that break so easily.
@kaizen - Too much plastic and electronic junk.
It seems to me car makers deliberately make cars with ICE less reliable in favour of their electric products. It looks like they have some kind of agreement in that way.
the electric ones aren't reliable either
I agree. But try to explain that to people who believe and follow such trends. Unfortunately they are in majority.
@gt - Then the majority are fools. It's like they said in the Simon & Garfunkle song form the 60's "The Boxer" -
"Cause a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest ..."
@doc that is the great qoute.
Aka - confirmation bias.