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How much time will I spend charging, driving an EV 650 miles

  

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Just watched the comparison of EV, Hybrid and Gas powered vehicles. On the EV, installations of the slowest plug (30amp @12 hours) is about $1000. However getting the faster receptacles (which are 100amp or 200amp) would require a new service and a new panel which in Oklahoma is costing about $8000. We often travel by car long distances- could you do a comparison based on time spent (including refueling) across say 650 miles driving - the distance to our daughter’s house in Colorado?


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Long distance driving, with little infrastructures, is best done by gas vehicles in my opinion.


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I just did a 2100 mile round trip from upstate new york to Near savannah, Ga. I did that trip in basically 3 and a half days of driving, but the trip was five days.

I don't like to take interstate unless I am super rushed, I like to take the scenic route, and sometimes I change my route mid trip, because I want to try a different way.

Driving an electric vehicle, I would be forced to make my trip according to where I can charge up, and I know a lot of that is on interstates.

Waiting on charging would have made me lose at least half an hour longer than my speedy gas station stop, at 10 recharges over 2100 miles, that would be an extra 5 hours minimum, that is considering no wait at the charging stations, which I hear are getting worse and worse. I don't typically stop for meals.

Let's not forget hotels, that should be factored in too. The way I scheduled it, I left mid day my first day, and safely made it just far enough to get to where hotels were much cheaper in virginia. Had I been driving an ev, I would have had to stop farther up the road, due to being tired, and getting late into the night. What it boils down to, I would have been forced to stay at a more expensive hotel, not sure why they were so crazy high that night, but it would also mean that I would have had to stay an extra night in my overall trip. I would have lost at least $150 for hotel room.

I was also using PTO, factor in I would have lost another day, looks like driving the cheap electric vehicle could have easily cost me $300 more. PTO to me is really more valuable than what I get paid, I wouldn't like losing it because of waiting at a charging station.

 

For your 650 mile trip, here is what I see, and I travel a lot. My longest day I like to safely do, is max 700 miles, and I don't like doing that much. Driving 650 miles would mean losing another probably 2 hours over my gas car. It would also mean that now I have to stay another night in a hotel, so I just lost $100-150. If you don't mind driving that much in a day, that may not be a problem, and you may not have to get the hotel.

 

It looks to me that driving an electric vehicle would mean I couldn't be as flexible, and take the scenic route. It would also mean, for me at least, that I would likely spend much more on a hotel room, that I would have spent if I had just driven my Toyota matrix. I would also be more tired at the end of the day because I spent time waiting on my car to charge.

I think electric vehicles could be great for driving within a 100 mile radius, long trips, not so much.

I did all the figuring as I was writing, so please feel free to correct my logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Nice summary. Yeah, when you wade through all the pie-in-the-sky, EVs don’t make practical sense.


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Most EVs are advertised as 250-300 miles per charge in base form*.  Real world testing usually comes in around 200, sometimes less.  That means you will need to allow 2 charging stops, at a minimum.  At 45 min a stop, that’s 90 minutes.  And since there is no guarantee that you will have a charging station waiting right exactly where you need it, or that you will find an unoccupied charger when you get there, 3 stops and 3-4 hours wait time could happen quite easily, especially at peak travel times.

By comparison, a gas powered car will make it on one stop, probably taking about 10 minutes to gas up.  (I once made 700 miles on a tank in my diesel Sierra 1500 driving from Denver back to TX.  With a full tank, I’d have a reasonable chance to do that drive nonstop.)

So you still should be able to do it in a day, but you’ll add at least an hour to your day.  Conservative estimate. 

*Beware of advertising claiming higher numbers as that usually requires buying an upgraded ($$$) battery pack.


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Here is one story of an EV needing 15 hours to go 178 miles. That’s an average of 11.86 mph. 

At this rate, it will take you about 56 hours to go 650 miles.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/very-difficult-electric-vehicle-15-hours-178-miles

Granted the battery pack in a Leaf is smaller than other EV’s on the market. 


@Kaizen “56 hours to go 650 miles”
And that’s if it doesn’t self-ignite along the way. 😉


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