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| RE: What is your opinion on latest Consumer Reports new car reliability? | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Mod_Man | Submit Your Question HERE | |
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| RE: What is your opinion on latest Consumer Reports new car reliability? | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | InThrustWeTrust | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| @mod_man this is after I edited it to have it shortened.. | |||||
| RE: What is your opinion on latest Consumer Reports new car reliability? | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Mod_Man | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| That would be me. LOL {black}:laugh: | |||||
| Answer to: Car reliability according to consumer reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Dan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Is that anything new though? Here's a Ford, one of the most common engines in the UK, these Ford EcoBoost engines all end up pouring coolant into the engine oil - also funnily enough the oil passage on the head gasket tends to blow and leak all over the place. But maybe Ford isn't a good example when it comes to poor engineering, after all they're the same guys that managed to build cars that ±30% of which required over 3 repairs in 2-3 years. -speaking of mega recalls, only speaking about the last 10-13 years. @mmj Toyota recalled 7.5 million cars for their air bags sending metal fragments through your skull (I don't care what supplier they used, the same way I do not care what supplier Hyundai used for their 12V sockets - it's on them to make sure their cars are safe),Toyota recalled 4 (3.95) million cars for the seat suddenly sliding backwards during operation causing accidents, and another 4 million cars for faulty throttle pedals sticking and causing accidents, and then another 1.9 million for hybrids suddenly shutting down during operations.and many more cases like this. oh and the ongoing recall for 5.8 million cars due to engine stalling cause of their fuel pumps being crappy. or when they had to recall all of their high end V8s due to poor quality valve springs (but that was kind of minor, only 270k).-Poor quality parts and design defects are also common on Toyotas. The early GR series - None of these have compression on cylinder 5. AZ owners had issues with oil consumption and so did the 2000-2006 Corollas that had the 1.8L ZZ engine, known for burning tons of oil and going out way too early, in 2009 they on the next gen, again, exceptionally high oil consumption. On European 2008-2009 MMT failures (all of those got recalled for TCM issues, can't find an exact number but all MMT variants), the gearbox got canceled after 1.5 years. and later on the 2014 we got the CVT transmissions that aren't that great either.-Fact is that they're not great, but compared to others - they are above average. If you don't believe me ask petrol Škoda/SEAT owners how much oil their cars consume at 60k miles, or if their mechatronic was rebuilt (the oil pressure gets pushed up against a slab on which the oil circuit board is drilled onto, the result is obviously that it cracks at the seams as early as 40k miles even on very expensive cars.)-The thing is that at least Hyundai-Kia offers a good warranty and take responsibility for their screwups, (it's not like VW that marketed the EA888 and after it turned out that it's total crap - and went on to have another 3 generation where everyone knows it's crap and yet VW continues to screw costumers over). When Hyundai had an issue with engine knock on the Theta - they provided lifetime warranties for the affected engines.I feel that Hyundai-Kia doesn't want to screw over their costumers on purpose - they don't offer unsafe cars anymore (unlike Mazda that offers 4 star rating cars, or extremely flawed designs like the new Mazda3 or the Hondas that can't reach operating temperature) and for most of them safety is standard and not a luxury and again with 10 yeas of warranty, It just doesn't matter as much. | |||||
| Answer to: Car reliability according to consumer reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Dan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| On the topic of that Honda, I did research online and asked mechanics and injectors failing seems to be a widespread things on Honda made around 2016-2018.-When it comes to recalls, Honda recalled 1.4m cars last year, Toyota recalled 3.2m last year for fuel pumps and they had other recalls like oil consumption and valve springs in the past - it's hardly an indication of how well a thing is made anymore.-back to Hyundai, That doesn't match my experience at all, they ARE NOT amazing, they are NOT better than the Japanese but they are better than most cars.What new what larger SUV (other than the RAV4, CX-5, C-RV and their variants) is better than the Hyundai Tucson while being in the same price category...What new car large family car (other than the Camry, Mazda6 and Accord) is better than the Hyundai Sonata while being in the same price category...-I have no doubt that a 4Runner is much better than a SantaFe, or that a Corolla beats the Forte but, when it's an Accent against a US Yaris? Sonata vs a Passat? Tucson vs an Equinox? Kona vs a Renegade or an EcoSport?... they're just better than most of these.-Also, unlike the Japanese, Hyundai-Kia don't really make deathtraps anymore...US Yaris / Mazda2 - has 0 braking ability Mazda CX-3 having absolutely 0 control ability at just 47 mph. | |||||
| Answer to: What is your opinion on latest Consumer Reports new cars brand reability. Published november 18th 2021 | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | InThrustWeTrust | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| RIP to our members who log in here from their mobile phone.. | |||||
| Answer to: What is your opinion on latest Consumer Reports new cars brand reability. Published november 18th 2021 | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Doc | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Whoever paid the most money got the highest rating. | |||||
| Answer to: Should new vehicle buyers rely on Consumer Reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Kaizen | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Hell no. | |||||
| Answer to: Should new vehicle buyers rely on Consumer Reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Mod_Man | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Simple answer: Nope. | |||||
| RE: Consumer Reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | MountainManJoe | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| etc etc etc... Isn't it amazing what you can find in a few seconds by typing two words into a search box 😉 | |||||
| Answer to: Consumer Reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | MountainManJoe | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| RE: Consumer reports on Hyundai/Kia | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | kesterpaul62 | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| In terms of quality. | |||||
| Answer to: Consumer reports on Hyundai/Kia | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Whatchamacallit | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| Better in terms of what? The context matters. I don’t think that statement is necessarily biased - depending on the context. Better in terms of safety, performance, cargo capacity, technological features, overall value, etc? In that case, it might objectively be true there are better sedans out there (for that example). CR does sometimes evaluate and give their assessment of cars which go beyond just the objective analysis, similar to some of these car magazines except allegedly they are not supposed to be paid for by the automakers (and rely on subscribers). | |||||
| Answer to: Consumer reports on Hyundai/Kia | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Elon Dusk | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| How can you tell there wasn’t any under the table deals? | |||||
| Answer to: Car reliability according to consumer reports | 20Relevance | 5 years ago | Dan | Submit Your Question HERE | |
| I've been seeing that a lot, Ford's EcoBoost's blowing head-gaskets before even 50k miles, Chevy's EcoTech 1.4L requiring rebuilds before 60k miles, Toyota's European MMT transmission burning up it's friction material each 40k miles, the Fiat-Honda ZF 9 speed transmission lasting about 90k miles on average, Mitsubishi and Nissan CVTs do tend to have catastrophic failures before 100k miles if you're a spirited driver, Mercedes' 7G-DCT and Volvo's MPS7 (same transmission, different branding) are not great at all at higher millages. also all of the people on this forum with issues with Honda CVTs and on the internet I saw quite a few people complaining about injector issues before 30k-40k miles (a guy on this from recently posed that he had all 4 injectors (over $300 each) fail at 25k miles on a 2018 Accord with the EarthDreams engine).People like to crap on Hyundai-Kia (I remember when BBC's TopGear (their credibility is a whole different story but) reviewed the 2nd gen Accent they called it "less fun than drowning") but realistically? Conventional automatics are great, MPI engines are solid (GDI and T-GDI are questionable but no more than their competitors)Scotty has been saying for years "they're not great, they're decent" and that's honestly what I've been feeling towards them, just nice little inexpensive cars, better than anything domestic or European. | |||||