I'm considering a 2021 Honda Accord. The gas-only version has a 1.5 turbo direct injection engine. I believe that could have oil dilution problems and dirty injectors. But Scotty's recent video seems to indicate it is better than the hybrid with the 2.0 port injection engine. If I just keep it 10 years or so, does that change things? Does anyone have experience with these engines? We looked at Toyota and the seats, grill and white paint are unappealing at best.
How many miles (estimate) do you think you will put on in those 10 years?
What I think people are starting to do (those that know of the oil dilution) with the 1.5 tdi engines to mitigate the oil dilution issue is to not change the oil per the oil life monitor but to change sooner like every 4-5k miles. Don't know about the injectors, didn't have any issues there.
If you change the oil frequency enough with the new GF06 oil, you should be ok regarding the oil dilution and your car can last some time.
The 2.0 doesn't have port injection, it is also direct injection turbocharged. I would avoid turbocharged engines. For that reason, if I absolutely had to get a brand new Accord I would get the hybrid. However, I am not a fan of hybrids either because what you save in gas you spend in repairs. If you don't like the Camry then I would be looking at the Mazda 6 or even the Subaru Legacy.
The hybrid powertrain OP is referring to has a 2.0L naturally aspirated engine with port injection (LFA1 engine).
According (no pun intended {black}:smile: ) to the Honda website, the hybrid has a gas engine which generates power to drive the electric motors (that's a very simplified explanation). That engine is port injected. I am not talking about the 2.0 turbo (gas only) Accord, but rather the Hybrid. Please expand the Engineering "tab" on the left of this link:
https://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/specs-features-trim-comparison
Thanks for the ideas everyone.
Have you looked at the Mazda 6 sedan? If you were turned off by the Toyota’s I would take a hard look at the Mazda 6 sedan.
I would always go with the non-hybrid given the choice. Batteries are a real pain in the neck to deal with down the road.
The 1.5T and 2.0T engines are prone to oil dilution and long term might be annoying, but you should be alright if you stick to religious 4-5k oil change intervals. For 5-7 years you might try out your luck with a hybrid but 10 years is stretching it for both, and we don't know the reliability of the 1.5T engine long-term either. Aformentioned above by Day Walker, I would also give the Mazda 6 a look with the naturally aspirated engine and regular automatic, it is a good contendor. Sticking with the Honda, I would choose the CVT over the 10 speed automatic, weirdly enough, because the CVT has been out almost a decade in the Accord and has proven farely reliable and should get you to 10 years/200k miles relatively trouble free given you maintain it. However, the 10 speed automatic is troublesome as they age as in aging Honda/Acura models. I am overall dissapointed in the new Accord in terms of reliability, but anyone who does excellent maintenance should be able to get it to last. Maybe you should consider a used 2017 model from the last generation? Or maybe a lease? Maybe give the Mazda a look? Maybe consider doing strict oil change intervals if you buy a 1.5 Accord?
