Hey scotty i have my eyes on the 2022 Toyota Hilux GRS i just wanted to ask why are all toyota pickups part time 4x4 when toyota has decent full time 4x4? Ford ranger 2023 has full time 4x4 on higher trim levels please tell me it can be changed?
Why bother having full time 4wd on dry paved roads? You don't need it and it just wears out the engine and steering and suspension components faster and burns more fuel. I would never buy a 4wd vehicle that I could not select when I needed it, ie, mud, snow, etc.
I understand your point but as for me i have hatred for RWD they are very drifty and as for the fuel i dont mind as people are not complaining about their raptors 4WD system . I dont think that 4wd would wear out the components if i never seen people getting mad about their raptors getting ruined but i see your point but i am not interested in a off road focused vehicle like the tundra trd pro who is 70k ans have the cheapest systems when the lc 300 has a FULL TIME system but thanks your for thoughts
Doc is right. Full time systems do wear faster. There's more stuff to wear out and replace and maintain. It adds to the cost of upkeep. And unless you need to go off-road often, or it snows A LOT where you are, most people don't need it.
usually part time transfer cases are simpler, and therefore easier to service (especially in the field) and they last longer, can be easily rebuilt etc.
Hiluxes are depended on by businesses and industry. They don't need bells and whistles.
Lets face it most modern trucks like the Ranger are just pavement princesses.
I argee but my concerns comes from why all new toyota Off road focused pickups are part time? The 2022 trd pro is part time when it is assumed to be the raptor killer right? Now that you said why they used part time my question is can it be changed?
can it be changed?
of course money can solve anything. Is it worth the expense? Heck no.
Alright i do see your point but i am doing a small project turning the hilux into a raptor fighter or at least trying too XD
I hope you're loaded.
Make sure you come back and post your results.
it is assumed to be the raptor killer right?
Completely different markets. Raptors are sold in N.America, and the Hilux is not.
"Ford engineers sought to enhance the daily driving experience of Raptor ... delivers the benefit of four-wheel drive without the repercussions of component damage or driveline binding—something that can occur when drivers try to use mechanically locked systems on high-traction surfaces like pavement."
Basically, people are too stupid to use part-time 4WD. And we see this a lot here on the forum
Ford ranger 2023 has full time
Ford website says "Electronic Shift-on-the-Fly " which indicates that it's driver controlled.
I never metioned the hilux being sold there how ever i did stated tundra trd pro . As for your other comment about people using part time in the forms i have no idea what you are refering to
OK let me break it down for you again. I know you didn't mention the Hilux being sold in N.America. But you were comparing the Hilux (International market. Customers include 3rd world mercenary armies ) to a Raptor (N.American mall crawling consumer market), and asking why they're different. My point is, you're comparing apples to oranges.
Actually you didn't state Tundra at all. Your exact words were " The 2022 trd pro " and according to Toyota's website, that could be a Tacoma, Tundra, 4Runner or Sequoia. The Sequoia has full-time automatic 4WD (which is probably what most rich SUV soccer moms would want.) You're right that the the other vehicles, which are for more serious drivers, are manual. Toyota probably knows they're more reliable.
That's how I see it. But I welcome other theories.
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i have no idea what you are refering to
I'm sure if you searched a bit you'd find it. But basically people use 4WD on dry paved roads, and then come here wondering why it crow hops, of the tires scrubbed off, or their transfer case snapped a chain, or their drive shaft fell off, etc...
people using part time in the forms i have no idea what you are refering to
right here. Watch @ 1:46
https://youtu.be/DtQqvd_fvNk?t=106