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I heard stick shifts can last forever and save a lot of gas than automatic car, is it true in all cars? I'm looking for a used car with a manual but very few available in my area, I saw a 2018 Hyundai Elantra and 2021 Toyota Corolla that comes with a stick shift.


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Posted by: @kaizen

a manual transmission is less complex

Posted by: @rob87

they can last a long time since they're less complex

No, I believe that "complexity" has nothing to do with it.  A quality watch can be far more complex than a transmission, and last much longer.

I believe an automatic transmission could also be made to last longer than a manual, and to do that, you would actually need to make it MORE complex.

I think the actual reason is cost constraint. It's cheaper to make a long lasting manual transmission.


I tend to concur. There are so many factors.


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Yes and no. So many factors go into longevity. Generally speaking yes, a manual transmission is less complex than an automatic. So in that respect they can “last forever”.

At the same time, they do have some wear items, like the clutch, bearings, and even the master/slave clutch cylinders. so just like an automatic, they will require maintenance. 

It also matters how the car was used. If the transmission was abused, whether it was a manual or automatic, projected life is lower than one that was taken care of. 

Me personally, given a choice between a manual and automatic, assuming they check out, I will go manual most of the time. 

also, given a choice between a Hyundai and a Toyota that check out, I will go Toyota most of the time. 

With Hyundai, I would need to do more intensive research before considering one. But generally, as a shortcut, I tend to just focus on other makes. 


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Posted by: @timeisfast54

I heard stick shifts can last forever

The transmissions are more durable.

Nothing lasts forever, and Hyundais might not even make it home from the dealer lot.

 

Posted by: @timeisfast54

save a lot of gas than automatic car

not anymore

 

Good theft deterrent though.


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Posted by: @imperator

Good theft deterrent though.

Are thieves incapable to handle a manual tranny???

(because they can't count to three? {black}:scared: )


Well unless if you lived in Europe or other parts of the world, manuals are very common there and many of them know how to drive manuals, but here in the U.S. no, manuals are not their thing for American preferences and a lot of them weren't taught to drive one.


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Standard transmission generally are more reliable than autos but you have to use them correctly. You also want the vehicle it is in to be a reliable one because other things can go before your transmission like your engine. 


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Generally, they can last a long time since they're less complex and easy to repair.

 

Posted by: @timeisfast54

save a lot of gas than automatic car

If you ask the same question in 90's or 2000's, sure but in the case of modern cars these days, no.


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Posted by: @imperator

I believe an automatic transmission could also be made to last longer than a manual

Well, only if it's a well designed and having fluid changed regularly (ignore the claim of "lifetime fluid"). A lot of automatic transmissions that automakers make are poorly designed and fail even at very low mileage.


Like I said, they're more costly to make properly, and the auto industry is incredibly competitive.


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