Hello Scotty what are your thoughts on the new ford explorer 2020-2021 should I buy brand new or skip this?
I have a 2020 Ford Explorer and just as Scotty says the 10 speed auto is a turd. Vehicle has 30k miles and I've had it to the dealer 3 times already for the trans. Now its messing up again. Grinding, whining, searching for the right gear - the trans is a disaster. Really a shame. Trying to like Ford but this '20 Explorer has me at my wits end. Maybe I'd try a Super Duty but never another Ford with the 10 speed.
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I would pass honestly. They aren't aging well.
the 2021's aren't aging well? That's a shame.
I know, Ford can't even make a new car correctly.
what's happening to them?
There is so much I can say but to keep it simple:
Reliability concerns:
The generation came out for the 2020 model year and kinks aren't worked out
Its made by Ford, and we all know newer Ford quality is horrible and the right out of the factory issues are evident as well, take Mod Mans experience or the many recalls for example.
Significant points:
GM/Ford partnership made 10 speed automatic, these transmissions are troublesome as they age.
Most importantly, look at the engine choices:
2.3 L EcoBoost turbocharged I4[70]
3.0 L EcoBoost twin turbocharged V6[70]
3.3 L Cyclone V6 hybrid
3.0 L EcoBoost twin-turbo V6 plug-in hybrid[73]
All of these have proven to fall apart, Scotty and online data shows within a few years 70 80k miles, and they are unreliable. Ford also is having lots of recalls and engines blowing up early on so I assume they aren't making anything better.
Just because it has an EcoBoost engine alone is enough to not buy one.
Since you will ask about my original post and all that, I shall say the components of the new Ford Explorer have been proven troublesome, and new Ford SUVs are expriencing quality control issues and recalls right out of the factory.
Hope this was enough?
Forgot to mention, 5 10 15 year old ones are aging very poorly with engine and transmission problems all over the place. Has Ford quality gotten better since then? I am sure not, but if needed you could skim over mod man's posts. Also, they are electrical nightmares.
I think just that reason alone is enough for me to avoid the Ford Explorer. I hope this was enough information for the original poster, good luck and hope this helps;)
If I had to buy a Ford vehicle, it will probably be the Ford Explorer with the 3.5L V6 twin turbocharged. I know it has certain problems, but it's not underpowered compared to others.
@alvin
Ok {black}:idontknow:
I guess since I'm talking about reliability I have to say its a horrible engine specifically taking a huge Ford SUV+ Ford transmission + ecoboost + V6 +twin turbo is making absolute disaster for the engine and overall car reliability. For Scotty's word, his customers and the police weren't happy with them because the EcoBoost Explorers all were in the repair shop every week, but not so with the Crown Victorias... Anyways I have a cramp in my hand {black}:deceitful:
@Kerem You made a good point there.
Run away
I would skip it if you buy it long term. If you want the vehicle so bad, lease it so you have no problems later on.
They fall apart as they age particularly after a few years. Have you seen what the aging ones are experiencing?
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Explorer/2016/
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Explorer/2013/
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Explorer/2006/
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Explorer/2002/
It’s still fairly new vehicle on a whole new platform but it is only offered with the 10-speed AT which in other Ford vehicles has already had some issues (and was subject to a class action lawsuit). The longevity of the 10-speed AT is unknown but it had issues short term already (which makes me weary to own long term - why find out by owning one?), the Ecoboost engines can wear out over time, and you have more electronics (and bells and whistles) than before - which invariably will have kinks that need to be worked out. Don’t be a guinea pig and buy it - Ford is not even paying you to test for them! Instead, my recommendation would be to lease one only if you really like them and want one.
If you can get a really good deal on it then why not, they are okay cars. Although I would think twice if it has the Ecoboost engine.
Hi BillyBob,
The powertrain offered in the last generation Ford Explorer:
2.3 L EcoBoost turbocharged I4
3.0 L EcoBoost twin turbocharged V6
3.3 L Cyclone V6 hybrid
3.0 L EcoBoost twin-turbo V6 plug-in hybrid
Transmission
Ford 10R60 10-speed automatic
Oh wow, that is unfortunate. In that case I would think twice.
They did the same thing with the new Ranger.
A customer of mine bought a brand new 2021 Explorer. Its driver door rubber seal peeled off after 3 weeks.
I bought a 2021 Ranger and returned it after a week. The damn brake didn't feel right. They let me test a different truck. The brakes were the same. I wasn't sure if brakes in a truck would be different from brakes in a sedan which I used to drive. But they didn't feel right.
It is not a Ford Explorer, it's a Ford Exploder.
I'd have to go with the guys on this one. Get a Toyota Highlander.
Just my two cents
Lease it!
I have a 2020 Ford Explorer and just as Scotty says the 10 speed auto is a turd. Vehicle has 30k miles and I've had it to the dealer 3 times already for the trans. Now its messing up again. Grinding, whining, searching for the right gear - the trans is a disaster. Really a shame. Trying to like Ford but this '20 Explorer has me at my wits end. Maybe I'd try a Super Duty but never another Ford with the 10 speed
Easy pass. The quality is terrible.
