So I've narrowed down my next car to a reliable Land Cruiser. Either the old diesels ('cause I'm fed up with new ones) or an old petrol V8. But as we all know, fuel costs are an issue.
You've got ethanol in petrol, they'll probably put ethanol in all petrol in the years ahead to force old petrol cars off the road.
Diesel is more economical but more expensive - sometimes as much as 20p a litre over her in the UK. And I like the idea of an older diesel that can handle crappy fuel, because they'll probably start putting raw sewage in the pumps at this rate.
Then there's the alternative fuels for each. LPG and vegetable oil. But I've never gone down that route and I hear each one can wreck your engine.
So basically it's obvious they want us all driving electric cars. And my thinking is currently to just buy the most reliable engine, and deal with whatever the government does with regards to fuel.
-I hear they're making filters now where you can drain off the ethanol...probably still cheaper than an EV. 😜
The problem here (US) is that the politicians are funded by donations from people who don’t have to drive themselves to work, and don’t have any respect for those who do.
I agree with Carlos. I think they want us all out of our cars and on public transportation.
Gasoline will not be phased out any time soon, though governments will continue making it more expensive if the voters permit them to do so. (I don't know how it is in the UK but here in the U.S. there is only so fast and so far they can push people before being tossed out of office. People here are already complaining bitterly about gasoline prices that would be considered giving the stuff away practically free in the UK and Europe.)
Even if the timeline for no more sales of gasoline cars is adhered to, which is quite a few years away and may or may not happen, the installed base is so large that the full transition will take a very long time. I do not believe it will be possible to get rid of gasoline power within the lifetimes of older people like myself (Scotty's age).
The only people I know who have run diesel cars on vegetable oil have been those with old VWs and Volvos from the 1980s. I don't know how adaptable a modern diesel would be. Likewise I have only seen LPG conversions on old cars with carbs and no computers.
Ethanol-laced gas at 10% has been standard in the U.S. for a long time now and it really has not been a problem for older vehicles, most of which are going to need fuel system parts replaced anyway and the replacements will be ethanol-resistant. I have cars over 50 years old that haven't had any issues with it.
Well I imagine you guys in Great Britain will be in a bigger stink then here in the states. You got so many rules for everything over there it's kind of destroying your country I went there a few years ago I was amazed at all the lazy people who didn't work or the people supposedly were working but we're so lazy they may well not been working. Your things going to be what kind of fuel leaving allow you to use here in the state standing for going to mess with it for a really long time it's too big of a country and people value their freedom too much to let governments take it over we would just vote out to people we didn't like and then the rules would change. Good luck though I would probably bet more on gasoline than anything else in the short run
Thanks again Scotty. I noticed you mention getting older a few times recently, so if you read this let me say all the older men in my family are tradesman and my grandfather (like yours I think) worked until he was 75 years old as a plumber. And my uncle in France carried on at the family buisness mechanic garage until he was 80 or so.
But then he was repairing Renault so it's not like he was ever gonna be short of work. I'm a caprenter myself and I can say the 70 year olds I work with are more physical than the millenials as well. Most are exhausted as soon as they cut a few 2x4s for noggins.
The goal is not electric cars as much as it is to price the ordinary man out of the market, and off the road.
Haha cry's in $6 a gallon gas. It truly is sad. California where I currently live is pretty crazy too.
you can drain off the ethanol.
you paid for it so you might as well use it.
Mr. Fusion!
Ask Doc Brown! {pear}:laughingoutloud:
