Good day Scotty
- You are the Man! Ive been in the industry for 40+ years. Ive had some pretty unique cars like a manual diesel Camry. Your videos rock! Ive come to a delemma. Normally I test a car for 10 minutes and make a decision but where I live theres nothing to test drive. I always liked Toyotas and Hondas. Ive driven lots working for both companies. I want to buy a 2022 Camry LE, Corolla SE or a Civic SE. Which one do you think is best? My wife says no more manuals! Thank you in advance, Elliot
All projected to be great cars.
Between the three, my personal preference is the Honda Civic with the 2.0L naturally aspirated, port injected, K series engine, specifically the K20C2. Where I live, I believe it comes with the LX model.
The K engine is one of Hondas best engines, going on 20 years of solid history.
I also just like the interior look and feel of Honda over Toyota better too, to be nit picky.
But really, I’d be happy owning any of those vehicles.
Thanks for the reply. I wanted to replace my current car that has a 2.0 direct injected 160 HP manual. 0-60 mid 7s. The Honda looked perfect with the 2.0 until I saw the performance number in excess of 9 seconds. Very concerned with a CVT as I found better performance with a geared automatic hence the Camry. I however was also concerned with the poor design od the 1.5 turbo from all the problems they had. Im hoping that the bugs have been corrected.
It sucks that Honda is stuck between a rock and a hard place. They are forced to use turbos these days to meet government fuel and emissions requirements.
I think Toyota is the only one to figure out how to gain a little more mpg and performance without turbos. Their hybrid strategy helped with that fleet calculation.
I think think the Camry is a fine choice.
Obviously I think the ideal would be the Honda 2.0 NA, manual. But that is out of the question because of your wife. And the automatic doesn’t exist in that form, TMK.
Actually the 2022 Civic sedan LX and Sport trim come with 2.0 NA engine. The Hatchback again LX and Sport trim are 2.0 NA. The Accord Hybrid ones are 2.0 NA too.
I would take the 2022 Civic between these three options; I have the Touring version of it and the interior is so much better than the 2022 Corolla. While the 2.0L NA Civic is the best choice but if you wanted to get a turbocharged engine then I would definitely trust Honda more than other manufacturers (the reason why I wasn't concerned buying a Touring and it's 1.5L turbo engine). The Camry is a totally different level as far as size, but it's a good car. Might also want to consider the Accord; again much better interior in my opinion. At the end of the day all are good cars and as long as you do the basic maintenance they will last. And if you can convince your wife for a manual then the Civic Si and two trims of the hatchback are very nice manual options.
Ive owned both Toyotas and Hondas and theyve been great cars. Lately however Ive seen concerns over the Honda turbos and CVT. The Corolla CVTs and lots of complaints with Toyotas 8 sp auto. I may be old school but the japanese have issues with the latest tech. Being in the business Ive come across lots of quirky technology that just doesnt work well.
Honda turbo engine there is even a video from Scotty where he is reviewing a Civic type R and he talks about Honda having fixed the oil dilution problem and that it's a good choice when it comes to turbocharged engines. For me when Scotty says it's okay then it is.
As for Toyota not sure where you have been reading about those "a lot of problems" but again Toyota has been making cvt for a very long time now and they've perfected it. Issues can always happen, but it's not widespread when it comes to Toyota cvt.
It sounds like you're more interested in a dragster than an every day car. If that's the case, why are you considering economy models? Just curious. Why are the 0-60 acceleration times so important?
