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Buying 2019 Toyota Yaris LE Sedan from delearship

  

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This could be my very first car, it's listed at 13.583, 16.000 miles, Gasoline I4,  Automatic 6 speed, 36 mog combined and 1 owner. I just wonder why the owner got rid of the car. You folks think I could take the drive to a mechanic for an inspection before deciding to buy it?


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I'd go with an older Corolla for the same price over the Yaris myself


Is Corolla good? I was reading and hearing that some models aren't reliable and for what I've been looking I found few more priced than this yaris with a high millage...


Oh also a lot of Corollas got CVT only, isn't it bad?


@agendd. No some years in the Corollas have oil burning. I forgot the years of it.


We have a whole page on Toyotas and Hondas to avoid, in the FAQ go to "I need a vehicle" and then Toyota & Honda common problems. You would want to avoid 1998-2002 (too old anyways) for oil burning, 2009 for oil burning, and the LE Eco trim on newer models. 2010-2016 is the sweet spot. The CVTs were relatively reliable if you maintain them. If you don't want to take the risk, the years mentioned came with (or the option of) a 4 speed automatic on base models for 2014-2016. To be fair, the Corolla CVT is the best one out there.


Seems like the main complaint about CVTs are the fact that they don't rev and switch through gears like a traditional automatic or manual, and they don't sound like them either. Ive driven CVT Toyotas and Hondas and have no complaints; they move when you press the gas like any other car. The Honda Fit is actually a quick little car with a CVT. Scotty has some videos where he talks about CVTs and the launch gear that some of them have to make accelerating from a stop better..he noted that Toyota has been making them for a while so they've had many years to straighten out the kinks and improve them


but yes, Corollas are excellent cars (as long as you avoid the years noted above and buy one that was well maintained). Ive had a 2004 Corolla S since new that seems indestructible..started up every single day (minus when battery was dead) and never a single break down in 17 plus years


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That's something you need to ask the seller, but yes a pre-purchase inspection is a good idea.


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Since buying a car is a major investment, one should always do a risk analysis. This includes a pre-purchase inspection. If the buyer balks, walk away. 


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Keep in mind, though not mentioned above, the 2019 Toyota Yaris is a rebaged Mazda, it isn't a real Toyota. I personally would save a couple grand and get a 2014-2016 Corolla. Mazda is a good company as well but Toyota still tops. You would want to have a mechanic check it out for an inspection before you buy it. If they don't let you, walk away. Also, haggle a bit the price is a bit high.


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theyre ok. your buying a mazda2 btw not toyota. just get a corolla / civic much better longterm and resell value if u get bored of it 


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Yes get a mechanic to perform an inspection, if the seller refuses, politely decline to purchase and carry on looking. 

As for why the prior owner got rid of it after two years, quite possible they leased the car rather than buying it outright and have returned it at the end of their leasing term.


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if you are indeed buying from Toyota dealership I don't think a pre purchase inspection is necessary and because of the low miles nothing should be worn out yet, the only thing to check would be the brake rotors if it did a lot of sitting they would be rusty especially around the edges, the drive train is the same as a Mazda 3 same engine and transaxle Mazda has been using it for sometime now and I love it is still a automatic transmission I never liked the idea of a belt in such a critical part of a car like in cvt transmissions, my first car was a 2017 mazda 3 I bought new and have yet to have any issues with it. 


The used car business requires caution. A dealership is no more virtuous than a car lot. There are plenty of sad stories on this forum about dealer incompetence, arrogance and dishonesty. Protect yourself, always. Don't take anyone's word. Once the money has changed hands, you've lost any leverage. Get the facts, via a PPI.


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Thank you folks, what has been making me thinking about it is that it has been listed for 2 months


I see cars on a daily basis listed for 400 days, someone probably just didn't get around to liking or needing a subcompact sedan like the Yaris especially in North America.


These days, everybody and their next door neighbor wants a truck or huge SUV. Small sedans are not the current style, so they sit like convertibles in the winter.


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That is an excellent idea. If they don't want to allow it, walk away. 


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I went for a test drive and not much to say about it to be honest. The only concern is the back seat that has limited space, but for a start as a first car it could be good perhaps. 

They dropped the price of 500 to 13k as since 60 days nobody is willing to buy. When I asked if I could bring it to get it checked by a mechanic the dealer sales told me that the outcome it would be positive as it has just 16k miles. The engine is 1.5l...


Well you still want a professional mechanic to look over it for hidden damage such as a previous wreck or flood damage or rust and if live data throws up any red flags.


Sure, then they have nothing to worry about. Move on with the PPI.


Honestly for 13 grand you could get a much better model than a Yaris..you could definitely get an excellent used Corolla for that price. You also have other options in a Camry, Solara or variety of Hondas. You could even find a decent Lexus for 13K.


For a little more you could also get a new/ almost new Honda Fit which I would probably pick over the Yaris.

Theres no turbo on the Fit so no oil dilution problems, and its still a zippy little car (moreso than the Yaris I imagine..?)


Yes, my wife has a 2013 Honda Fit. We've had no mechanical or electrical problems in 8-and-a-half years. I'd recommend it. As for the older Camry, Solaras, etc., it's clear that this person wants a newer vehicle. Let them go for that. As for the Lexus, the cost of potential repairs is significant, given the higher cost of parts, and the greater complexity of design. Besides, gas is going over $3 this summer, probably $3.50 or higher in states such as California, Illinois and NY. If it hits $4 or more, consumer tastes will change.


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@rr8791 @geriscan

I'm looking for something new and reliable indeed, this would be my first car and I'm not sure for how long I wil have it. Depends by many factors like how I like it and how often I'll have to go by the mechanoc ( for my fault or not ). 

I'd be honest the interior was very disappointing, many new technologies, but poor design IMO and no space for the back seats if you're driving more than 2. Also the fact that "it could be compared to a golf cart" made me think too as I'd like to drive up in the mountains, but I won't try with SUVs yet as I'm new at driving.

 

I considered Corolla, yes, but they ask a lot for it. It would be 15k or 16k and the mileage would be around 30k. After all it would be 2k or 3k more in payment, but I ignore what I would get in my hands after. Something more reliable? Because each year model I hear and see on videos that's different with pros and problems that brong more money away.

Now with this yaris if I can negotiate to bring down to 11.5k or 12k I'd be more than satisfied to put 8k as a downpayment. If a corolla is more worth, I'd reconsider everything then


30K miles on a well maintained Toyota is very little. You'd be surprised what people are willing to pay for Toyotas with much higher mileage


Most of them listed here are CVT, isn't it bad? It could cause a lot of problems I was reading


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Honda discontinued distribution of the Fit, in the U.S., last year. (It's sold as "The Jazz" in other parts of the world, where it is a successful model). 

The Fit is a great little car, for someone under 5'10' or so. As I said previously, my wife has had no mechanical or electrical problems since we purchased it in October 2012. 

If you can find a well-maintained, relatively low mileage, 2019 or 2020 Fit, I'd urge you to check that out. (The Fit is averaging about 31 mpg, mixed driving, for my wife). 


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