A couple years back there was this fleet fuel economy goal of 54mpg to be reached by 2025. Trump and Toyota were trying to bring this down in states like California that want to whatever they want banning gasoline cars and stuff. Anyway, I don't know much of the details but here is a graph of the fleet fuel mileage by brand
Do you think the 54mpg (or even the Toyota proposed 37mpg) goal could be reached in 4 years? What do you have to say about this...
I assume the Fiat Ecodiesel will have to go?
sure. A Prius already gets 56
Hmm, and if the Toyota has a 40% electric or partial electric line up like they claim by 2025, it should be a lot easier.
Toyota shoots for 70% electric sales by 2030. We'll see about that. I'm interested to see if Toyota will still hold the reliability throphy in the EV market like the the ICE car market till now.
70% is nonsense. They don't mean that. The technology still has a long way to evolve before that number even gets to 50%
Yeah thought so. 40% in 4 years and 70% in 9 years seems far-fetched
Here is what Toyota says:
"The new electrified models further expand Toyota’s U.S. leadership in alternative powertrain vehicles. Toyota has over 40% share of the total alternative fuel vehicle market, which includes a 75% share of the fuel cell market and a 64% share of hybrids and plug-ins. By 2025, Toyota’s goal is to have 40% of new vehicle sales be electrified models, and by 2030 expects that to increase to nearly 70%." - Toyota
wait .... what fuel cell market?
@mountainmanjoe
Toyota Mirai? They have a ton of them for sale in California. On the market, they are the most dominant, but I fail to see ANY on the road. BTW its California only and the only hydrogen stations are in LA so 75% of the fuel cell market is basically in southern California.
interesting I didn't know there were any production fuel cells cars on the road. I would love to try one.
Great if you live near one of the hydrogen refueling stations I guess.
"California had ten hydrogen fueling stations in 2015, and the government provided about $47 million for 28 additional stations there.[16] As of December, 2017, there are 19 True Zero hydrogen stations[55] and 33 total hydrogen stations operating in California.[56]"
Oh so thats where tax payer money goes. If you think of it, its pretty sad, $50 million for 6,200 vehicles sold. The pandemic had a thousand times better impact on pollution here than EVs or Fuel Cell vehicles.
I see Mirai's all the time. But that is probably because I work near a Hydrogen Gas Station.
@kaizen
I assume in southern california? I have never seen one in person in norcal
Yup, SoCal.
The leading state for no emissions infastructure is California, which put $47 million dollars into a the fuel cell industry. The cause: to end pollution
Lets see what happens, only time will tell.