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So as we all know Hydrogen and electric cars are the future. 

GM is going all electric by 2035 

Japanese are working on Hydrogen 

China and Korea already started investing in eco friendly environment 

 

So my question is about Tesla. Tesla is a good car but has a bad resale value due to it battery. The more you drive the more the value drops. Tesla claims there battery can last 200000 to 300000 and i don't know if it's true or not, but they said they are working on battery that can last million miles. 

So do u think Tesla is good investment in future when electric battery are with in range of middle class family like $2000 to $3000 after every 10 to 15 years.

I mean just think about it, electric doesn't need that much maintenance as compared to gasoline cars and with fuel prices going up 

What you all think ?


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I would like to point out that this statement is flawed: "I mean just think about it, electric doesn't need that much maintenance as compared to gasoline cars and with fuel prices going up"

Firstly: There be a reason that tesla still uses diesel trucks to ship their cars everywhere. Cause battery tech ain't good yet. Lead acid was used for over 130 years give or take and is still used while lithium ion was mass produced and used for only like 50 years or so. Rough estimates so don't @me. Personally I am excited for the solidstate battery to be in production. Not to mention untill people be comfortable with the idea of nuclear power, everything is running on biofuel and coal. That green energy thing they are selling is over the top especially here in California. And these companies are just selling PR atm. Just like that stupid vacuum tube loop. Also also, When batteries die and corrode where they gonna be dumped/ recycling cost Is just way too high at the moment. So factories and others who claim these batteries tend to throw them in the toxic waste trash. 

Secondly: Going back to the original topic of maintenance for electric cars, as long as there be rubber and moving parts and things like coolant and air filters, that's not gonna go away. But the myth be that these cars need less maintenance is a sham. Tesla included, If anything they require more maintenance over time due to how much computer tech and systems be running on the cars...

Think about it this way, your Tesla is basically a hunk of computer(s) that are on 24/7 and it's suppose to last 200-300k? If I ran my own computer (newly built a year ago) for some 20 years then all the parts woulda inevitably failed by said time. You also don't know the quality of the chips in these cars. They seem to have failed more in the earlier versions of the Tesla, not to sure about now. And If one system fails it tends to cascade way worse than a gas car and If any of the fragile Chinese plastics fail in these sought after cars Then you got more to worry about than the electronics. There be a plethora of stories of people who can't even open their "gas caps" on their tesla to recharge em. Speaking, if one of those 18650 battery's on tesla's pack die, just one for whatever the reason, the whole system is screwed and need of replacement. Chinese sourced batteries nonetheless, even if extensively tested, I still wouldn't trust it. (Repair for these cars are also expensive AF as they are exclusive and known to overcharge more than benz for parts if you even manage to get that far since Tesla doesn't want you to repair your own car)

And lastly: If you ever seen a channel on YouTube called Rich Rebuilds, he's done a lot of tesla stuff. And used market for tesla is the worst not because of battery deterioration but the hiring of $15 per hour workers to try to cheapen cost in the use market space since it is so oversaturated with leased Teslas. The problem for Tesla has gotten so bad that it is actually easier to go buy a brand new Tesla than to lease one. Got a great video of him trying to buy a used model X and took him over a year to get which if he bought new woulda been his by like 3 weeks.

This all being said, I think the estimate is at LEAST another 25 years I would say 2050 before it becomes feasible. I am excited for future tech to become a real thing and I think Tesla is a front runner but it has to seriously iron out it's issues does have it's fair share of competition very soon. 


Would you mind expanding on the concept of easier to buy a new one than to lease one? Do they hold back on leases these days?


Dam Bruce Ree you really did your home work on this one and to be honest I do agreed everything u said


@Kaizen, I misspoke in my rant above whoopse. I meant BUYING a USED leased Tesla. The used Tesla market is crap. AND Carl somewhere put down that it was because of battery deterioration, when in reality it is because Tesla has absolutely no idea how to manage their used market.


Gotcha.


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I think conventional gas vehicles will be around for a gooooood while! EV's still have the confidence challenge with most people. Anything over a 100 mile one way trip now and EV's scare people away. Too inconvenient


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I personally don't think as daily driver cars as an investment.  Because investments would make a return.  A regular car, or an electric car won't usually make an ROI.

Classic cars that hold value in the long run, that could potentially be an investment.  

Now, whether or not to get an electric car?  It all depends on your situation.  

If the electric car meets your range needs and you have the means for charging without inconveniencing you, at a cost you can afford, then go for it.

If the electric car doesn't meet your range and you can't easily charge the car without bending over backwards, probably stick with gas cars, until the range or infrastructure is built up to support it.


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Berkeley is going to ban all cars that aren't electric by 2027, and a techer said we will be going to electric in 4 5 years. Toyota is shooting for making 70% of its profit from electric cars by 2030.

The only reliable and accurate thing I can say is, we'll see what happens.


Sounds like the looney toons in Berkeley are still on acid. What they do or what some teacher in the Peoples' Republic may have said is not really any of my concern. I see no legitimate reason to force a change to electric cars en masse.

 

What others do I cannot say and I do not have a crystal ball, but one reliable and accurate thing I can tell you is that I will certainly never own an electric car and I'm not the only one by a long shot.


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