scotty i’m a huge fan! i love your videos & you teach me so much. i know you only have one video on scion frs but don’t talk ab what i need to know. can you pls make a video or let me know if a 14-16 frs would be a alright first car for me @17. something rides nice looks cool & easy to maintenance but i really need to know about the reliability on them & if they will last me. don’t wanna be working and spending $ on it all the time, thanks ur the best:)
(forgot to mention I prefer a manual transmission)
(update rlly thinking about getting one, cool looking car for a 17yr old fun manual good gas & insurance rates w 4 seats. Scotty said in his 86 video they’re slow but fun little cars anyway that should last. Hoping to find a reliable one!
Have you looked at other reviews online/ tsb's? They should more or less give you a good assessment on whatever you are looking for. Personally I think the car is slower than an mr2 and I hate to see em riced out. Engineering wise. The 4 cyl boxer is ight. Suspension is easy to work with, pretty cheap parts if need be. Basic maintenance should last you a good while.
I tried to look around & watched so many youtube’s videos but half the people have opposite sayings ! Some people say either the engines are solid & reliable & the other say they could have the crickets problem or the valve spring issue or they say since it’s a boxer it’s more likely to blow a head really early on. So i really don’t know it’s so mixed 😂 I just wanna buy a newer car but cool looking that’s gonna be reliable for me since i’m 17 can’t afford to always buy parts & work on it, need something cool looking tho since i’m a car guy & like my cars
i also don’t care what so ever about speed since the faster just the more insurance costs for me
The head gasket thing is a real thing, it is more likely, but doesn't mean it will, or it can be premature depending on if the previous owner (s) were abusive to the car. but the people who talk about the other stuff are in the wrong IMO. If you ain't gonna drive the car hard, there be less issues and ticks. If the boxers were so unrealistic they wouldn't have continued to make em. (Outback reputation) granted these are different platform FA 20 or something, but yeah.
Also you can always get it checked out by a Independent mechanic prior to purchase. It always tells you a lot. Typically you don't really find issues until a few days or even weeks after if you haven't looked beforehand
ok! sounds good thanks! so you would say there pretty reliable as is?
Yeah, knew people who have em with little to no complains, interior I've found to be a little flimsy but if you don't care about that then I think you are set.
See below: Also, be sure to price out the cost of insurance beforehand.
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/is-buying-a-used-2013-frs-worth-it/#post-58419
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/scion-fr-s/#post-10389
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/2014-scion-fr-s/#post-2910
thanks i’ll check it out ! i don’t think insurance for them on my parents plan is anything much more than a corolla or something ? It’s only a 4 cylinder & seats 4 people which the back 2 are for insurance & they are newer with all the safety airbags & all that tech stuff.
I don't think the FRS is a good first car. Not going to recommend a boring Corolla to you but I must start somewhere. What do you think about the Honda Civic? They are particularly fun to drive nimble small cars and not as impractical (is that a word?) as the FRS. Also, Scotty said the FRS was underwhelming and boring to drive with an automatic if you are wondering his opinion. He tested it out and disliked it, for what its worth. Have you tested one out for yourself? A budget would also help us greatly.
thanks for the feedback! i’m looking to probably get a manual since i enjoy them better & know how to drive them, so if i did get an frs it would be a manual. that’s what i also forgot to mention (looking for a stick preferably) but i did look at civics & the vtech could be fun i heard? was thinking about maybe a 15 or 16 civic si or something they look sporty & are reliable solid honda engines. could be fun i guess? i’ve never drove one though neither have i drove a frs. for the budget it would be anything around 8-12k. i don’t rly think i find myself having fun in a corolla even tho they’re super reliable
I think you should take a look at the Civic SI
^^^ what he said
ok i will! that’s a car i had in mind & will probably outrun the frs. any other cool civics besides the si? and not a type r that’s to expensive.
I only know of the mainstream Civic. The EX-L trim is pretty nice inside other than that SI is best bet for performance.
i can’t think of anything besides an si for a reliable cool car sporty looking but i love how the frs looks just like a sports car
I would look around for a 14-16 corolla. Been shocked at the way the price flucuates on them from area to area. But an 14 corolla with 100k milea on it maintained can still find under 10k and is an easy to maintain vehicle. Personally i would take an older 80s-90s corolla but you said newer so
corollas are super reliable & solid cars but personally since i want something manual trans that looks cool i can add some “cosmetic” mods too, maybe some cool head & taillights & wrap it. I can’t really do that to a corolla & take it to a meet it’s just not a car guy car lol. I can’t see myself in a corolla enjoy it like that.
A 17 year old camry v6 or 2003 lexus es300.
Those are good but I want something newer 2013 preferably & up
that’s cool looking maybe a sporty looking car but reliable !
If you can afford it, get the 2013 lexus gs350 in rwd.
I just thought you wanted an old car cause you said it was 17 years old
sorry it must of came worded differently when you read it sorry lol i’m 17 years old. anyways do they make those in manual trans i don’t think they do? I forgot to mention i prefer a stick.
no, but the 8 speed automatic with the rwd is still a monster. Not to mention that it makes 306 horsepower, so I know teens love power. I am a teen as well looking for my first car and I love power.
hmm i’ll take a look🤔 that is a lot of hp for a first car lol as a teen almost like a type r but suv. i probably just prefer a stick tbh & hp isn’t a big concern for me rn since it could only cause risky car wrecks & high insurance which i want low. i’m not one of those teens acting like a safe sweet mommy or something Lol but that much hp just isn’t necessary
(correction the lexus is a sedan sorry meant to say car)
Oh. In that case, get an old manual mustang with a 6 cylinder engine, so the insurance rates aren't as bad as the 8 cylinder version.