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I have a 2010 corolla with 200,000 miles with zero issues, it uses no oil and has no leaks, i change the oil every 5,000 miles with pennzoil 5w-20 conventional oil. I went to walmart to buy more and they no longer sell conventional oil!! Now it's called synthetic blend or full synthetic.

In one of your older videos you suggest to not use synthetic in a older car as it can cause a leak or to use more oil.

Looking for some advice.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l58autifBJY


Most conventional oil is being phased out. Some are still around like Harvest king which is almost all you can find now at Atwood’s to my Mobil dismay.  Many company’s were posed to stop production by 2020 for example Mobil was phased out and we just now started seeing a change in stock over last 3 months in Tulsa area. Since the 1960s, Esso and Mobil stations in Japan had been run by Tōnen General Sekiyu, which had a controlling stake owned by ExxonMobil. In 2012, the company bought out much of ExxonMobil's stake, reducing it to a 22% minority. In 2016, ExxonMobil sold the remainder of its stake.[37]

In 2017, the company announced that it would merge with JX Group to form JXTG Holdings, with its petroleum business operating as JXTG Nippon Oil & Energy. Following the merger, it was announced that both the Esso and Mobil brands would be phased out by 2020, and replaced by the JX-originated Eneos banner.


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Don't shop at Wal Mart. Go to your local auto parts store. You should have no problems finding conventional oil there.


Not in. NJ. I went from Walmart to Home Depot to Advanced auto and finally Amazon and I can’t not get 5-20 conventional for my 07 Corolla with 193000 on it.
I also have heard if you switch over to a blend or synthetic that your car will start getting oil leaks.
Just what I need. The government pushing a green agenda and pushing oil companies to phase out the stuff my car has ran on for 15 years .


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If Walmart doesn't sell it anymore than there are plenty of other places that still sell it so don't worry. I don't think conventional oil will ever go away.


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It's perfectly fine to use a semi or full synthetic oil in that engine. Here in Europe pretty much all 0W20 oils has some sort of synthetic base oil because of the higher oil spec requirements.

When you change the oil as often as you do, that engine should be clean with no deposits acting as a sealer for worn out gaskets and seals.  A modern oil with more detergent additives could clean up an old and dirty engine, and may cause leaks.

The most important regarding engine oil is to use the right viscosity and oil spec.


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Why not physically go to one of the auto part stores and look. I went to Advance Auto to get oil for an oil change and they had plenty of conventional oil, all brands. I stay away from Wally world, haven't been in one for over 2 yrs. 


Price. I buy oil at WalMart because even the leading brands cost a LOT less there than at places like Advance or AutoZone.


I used to go to Wally World too for the price. To be nice; I'll just say the ones around here have gone downhill, so I avoid them now.


I went to Advanced this week and they have none. I can’t get any anywhere in NJ by me. I even looked at Amazon and they didn’t have it.
193000 miles on my car and now I am going to be forced to use a blend and start getting oil leaks?


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At $15 for 5 quarts, the "synthetic blend" motor oils are probably 5-10% synthetic. More useful is the American Petroleum Institute (API) labels on the oil, as they reflect industry standard tests, not marketing BS.

https://pqia.org/2020/05/15/read-the-labels-on-motor-oil-before-you-buy/


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Oh, yeah, this page of the petroleum Quality Institute of America lists the passenger car oils tested - and which ones failed the tests. Scroll all the way down - a surprising number failed.

https://pqia.org/passenger-car-motor-oil/


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When I was at Tractor Supply a few days ago they had plenty of conventional oil, albeit in their own brand. You should have no problem with the synthetic blends though.


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Synthetic blend of the correct weight will be just fine.


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Posted by: @robfromtc

I went to Advanced this week and they have none. I can’t get any anywhere in NJ by me. I even looked at Amazon and they didn’t have it.
193000 miles on my car and now I am going to be forced to use a blend and start getting oil leaks?

Talk about reviving an old thread! (You responded to a post from nearly a year and a half ago!)

You should not have any problem using a synthetic blend unless your seals are already shot, in which case you'll get leaks anyway in the near future no matter what oil you use. In fact I use full synthetic oil in cars older and with much higher mileage than yours with no problems at all. (I'm talking about a 1986 and a 1997 model with 300,000 miles and 365,000 miles respectively that have original seals in their engines and no leaks with full synthetic.)


yeah I think the fears are unfounded. The early synthetics had issues, but it's not a problem any more.


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It's not sold at the local auto parts stores advanced auto, auto zone, napa etc. I was just there none of them have it.

Now they did have what i would call off brands 5w-20 conventional motor oil.

None of the big brands like my fav pennzoil, valvoline.


Check Home Depot or Lowe's - you can do that online. I saw some at Home Depot a couple days ago.


None available within 100 miles. I even looked at tractor supply, amazon.


Have you tried ordering a case via an online store?


No telling if you would get the right thing as it seems to use the same part #.


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NAPA oil is made by Valvoline.


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After looking around online i found another forum with someone else looking for conventional motor oil and they where told it is being phased out and if you did find some it's more than likely old stock.

Assuming this is true what would you guys put in a car with 200,000 miles that does not burn/leak any oil?

 

 

 

 

 


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OW-20 engine oils typically have some sort of synthetic base oil to stay in grade at operating temp, and still be categorised as a 0W. Most modern low viscosity multigrade oil will be marketed as a synthetic blend or as fully synthetic, because the stricter requirements in ILSAC oil specs may not be met with a conventional/mineral base oil.

I would have used an engine oil according to the car's user manual. The 2010 Toyota Corolla gasoline engine asks for a 0W-20 or 0W-30 which has the ILSAC API Certified starburst mark. A Pennzoil Gold or Platinum seems to be a good option. 

 


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Conventional oil being phased out by synthetic blend. Synthetic blend is different from full synthetic. 

https://www.carymrtmilex.com/blog/engine-oil---full-synthetic-and-synthetic-blend-explained

Full synthetic for a car that does not burn or leak should be perfectly fine. If you still would like to use something similar to conventional and cannot find it then synthetic blend will be your new conventional.


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my manuel says 0w-20 or 5w-20.


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Follow the advice in your manual. I read an online Toyota Corolla 2010 petrol (USA) manual, there it says 0W-20 for normal driving and 0W-30 if you do a lot of high speed driving. 0W is preferred in extreme cold weather conditions.


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I know pros who use shell rotella with race cars. Real quality stuff.


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