Hi Scotty. Thank you for all your mechanic info. I’ve been really enjoying the videos. I want to make a new car purchase and it’s extremely confusing. Im considering the 2022 Honda CR-V is that a good choice? . NonHybrid. I’ve shopped around and seem to like that one the best of all. I keep my car for many years. I’d appreciate your opinion ! 😊🚗
because I would be wary of the 2018+ Rav4. There have been tons of recent worrying transmission issues that have been popping up
What are the tons of problems you are seeing?! It's 2022 so Toyota has fixed issues and it's definitely safe to buy one now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ7dPsE-2lw
I'm sure @dan could explain it to you in more detail.
Toyota cheeped out and installed on transmissions and installed UB80's on the RAV4 and non-compact cars.
It is based a transmission developed for chic small sporty European cars, not midsize SUVs with 2.5L engines.
We had posts on this forum from owners of Highlanders / Camries with jerking and shuddering.
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/2022-highlander-harsh-shift/#post-213120
I even remember a post from an owner who's transmission failed at around 120k miles on a last gen Camry.
But I can't find a link to that post.
But generally, a major issue with these is whining due to internals overheating falling apart,
Toyota had put out a few service bulletins but it goes way beyond them.
Looks something like this, it was the worst on the highlander, but also affected the rest of the lineup:
Owner in comments: "noise has not gotten worse though the transmission does exhibit occasional rough 2-3 shift or harsh downshifting when slowing down" "I keep seeing on the forums that those transmission replacements often don’t go right the first time"
Pretty much you can find complaints on every place where it's mentioned,
Looking through the comments of the 2018 highlander vid, and a persons says his 2019 model year is also whining and slipping in 1st. - I'm seeing complaints like that everywhere.
The owner of the car in the other video says Toyota replaced their transmission.
I know there's a lawsuit filed against the 2017 model year, but as far as I know it's all of them.
Basically it's subpar - But hey, At least the EPA says these reduce emissions by a significant margin! {pear}:exhausted: .
It's just built to appease the greens and bureaucrats, I don't think that reliability and longevity were a top priority.
Somehow this is still one the best new FWD transmission, being better than CVTs.
Same for other modern transmissions, the Hyundai-Kia A6 is considered one of the best out there, and yet here I am waiting for a replacement unit because of harsh shifting and whining.
At this point I think that when shopping new, buying a Toyota hybrid instead of a petrol is a better idea.
I would stay away because of the 1.5 turbo. You would be better off with the rav4 .
Depends on how long you plan on keeping the car; if 10 plus years then go with a gasoline only Rav4, but if less than that a gasoline only cr-v will be fine too. Turbocharged engines the long term reliability is not fully known yet but when it comes to turbocharged engines definitely Honda over any other manufacturer. Scotty does have a video on fixes for the oil dilution issue and I have a 1.5L Civic and it's totally fine. But probably you'll be looking at a 2023 model since at this point with all the supply chain issues Honda is having you won't be able to get a 2022 model.
Im considering the 2022 Honda CR-V is that a good choice?
Scotty’s opinion on a 2022 CR-V -
I'd rather have a turbo Mazda than Honda. It's a pretty simple proposition, concerning Honda's past oil dilution nightmares.
Might want to watch this video from Scotty; Honda has come up with a fix for their oil dilution issue. Also, the other video posted here on the new cr-v. In both of these Scotty says Honda when it comes to turbocharged engines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN1ILMpzsk0
If you have the money, whatever is naturally aspirated (non-turbo/super).
Low friction piston rings are used now & that's asking for trouble with forced induction. It's a bad idea in any application but adding boost just multiplies the issue.
As for hybrids, with all the electrical tomfoolery since late 2020/early 2021 I wouldn't go near one.
I'm going to disagree with the consensus, because I would be wary of the 2018+ Rav4. There have been tons of recent worrying transmission issues that have been popping up, and I'm not a huge fan of the CR-V turbo either. I own a 2017 Rav4 however, and would recommend it to anyone as its a great vehicle.
If you have to go new, I'd consider a Mazda CX-5.
I have heard nothing about transmission issues in the 2018 plus. Where have you seen this?
@jman2014 There's plenty of info. Just search the internet
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10170188-9999.pdf
Toyota claims the problem is solved with software, but for many people it does not.
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/RAV4/2019/
I'm sure @dan could explain it to you in more detail.
The new CX-5 has 2 engine options, neither of which is good for long term reliability: the naturally aspirated 2.5L comes with cylinder deactivation (and no way to disable it) and the 2.5L turbo version has had issues with oil burning.
I'd rather have a turbo Mazda than Honda. It's a pretty simple proposition, concerning Honda's past oil dilution nightmares.
Go ahead and get one. But be quick as the new redesigned 2023 model will be starting production soon. Check your local dealer to see if any incoming units are available. If so, get it. And use the new redesigned model as an excuse to lower the price (if you can). And the oil dilution issues have been fixed in those things for a couple of years now.
Unfortunately the option of using the new model as an excuse to get a lower price does not work in this market for manufacturers in high demand like Honda or Toyota. Both of them had to cut production due to supply chain issues and I know of people having had a deposit on a 2022 model but being told that at this time Honda is keeping parts they have for the next year model. I actually think OP should go ahead and put deposit for a 2023 model and get the in line for the new model.
Yup. For some reason my mom thought now was a good time to trade in the sub-50k 2017 rav4.
The waiting list for the hybrid (can't recall if she picked the toyota or honda) is almost a year.