Scotty are the new Chrysler Voyager/Dodge Caravans made by Fiat at all? Or still made by Chrysler? My grandparents just leased a new 2021 Chrysler Voyager for vacation
Yes they are FCA products... actually Stellantis now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Voyager#Production_worldwide
Ok all I wanted to know, but what's stellantis? Better or worse then fiat?
The same. Just under a different name.
Scotty explains it in his recent videos. So you take 2 crappy car companies like Fiat and Chrysler and your wrap them up into a crumbly chimichanga called FCA. Then you take some more crappy euro car companies like Peugot, Citroen and others, and you roll it all together with FCA into one giant turd burrito called Stellantis.
All this info is available from wikipedia or any web search.
Amazing explanation! 80s Car Lover, basically, I would view every single related brand to "Stellantis" and stay as far away from that as possible.
The 16 brands part of it the group are:
Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram and Vauxhall
Some where, some poor Mexican just spat out his lunch..
@mountainmanjoe, that's probably your best post on here. I laughed out loud. And you covered it so well, I have no need to post an answer. Just a comment here to say....thanks for that. 😆
you will regret trying this burrito. Symptoms include gas in the exhaust and backfiring.
Yes they are FCA. If you want one, definitely lease it short term. If you have to buy one, make sure to keep it under warranty. If you want a similar vehicle, go with a Toyota Sienna.
They are under FCA, and should be avoided if you plan to keep long term. Lease it and definitely keep under warranty only if you buy it.
So some parts are fiat parts? And why downvote?
They are made by FiatChrysler. Plus Chrysler was never all that much better than Fiat anyway so either way you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Chrysler quality started to go downhill after they discontinued making the K-car in the early 1990s
At least your grandparents leased the new Fiat Chrysler mini-van, so will not have the horror of getting in your share of the inheritance
Well ok I know there considered garbage for the most part, just wanted to know if fiat was building them at all cuz if they were I would never buy one
They are Fiat Chrysler products
Your grandfather has had good luck with "domestic" cars it should be fine for the lease period (plus you have a warranty) but don't consider buying it.
Of course Chrysler is part of Fiat-Chrysler, which is now part of Stellantis. But if you are asking whether that particular model is more Chrysler or more Fiat, it's definitely more Chrysler. The final assembly is in Windsor, Ontario at an established Chrysler plant, and the vans you are talking about are predominantly North American products.
The motor is the 3.6L Pentastar, which was developed 10 years ago in the pre-FCA days; the motor is produced in very large numbers in 2 plants in Michigan and another in Mexico (I don't know which plants supply the engines for the minivans). There have been some recent "Chrysler" products using Italian Fiat motors (eg, Ram diesel engines), but these do not. The transmission is a ZF unit and is produced in South Carolina.
Any mention of an FCA/Stellantis product on this website is going to generate criticism, much of it deserved. However, you said "new" (ie, warranty) and "lease" (ie, you don't need to worry about long term reliability). So in that respect, your grandparents made a fine choice. I doubt they'll have any major problems in the first 36,000 or even 100,000 miles (maybe a few electrical gremlins), and in the meantime they will have a roomy, comfortable, safe car that will be perfectly suited for a road-trip vacation.
Of course a Sienna van would have less trouble getting to 200,000 miles, but that makes little difference on a lease. And you would pay about a 15% premium for it.
ok cool, I think I got the answer I was looking for
ok, but why downvote it 3 times?
I don't know, but it is easy to find information if you just look.
Ok I just want to make sure it's accurate and that's all
then use multiple sources
All that aside, Wikipedia has some great information. They are pretty accurate actually about cars you can find information about where they are assembled, the engines, the tranmsissions, the trims, the price, the safety, the parts, the group, etc. etc. etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Voyager
yup. That's where I go for a lot of car info. The amount of detail is staggering.
Ok, ill check there 1st before posting another question