Hi, I am in Europe (Ireland) and have owned one of the rare VW Polo Gti since new back in May of 2000. It is a 1.6 naturally aspirated fuel injected double overhead cam 16 valve variable. The two main issues I have had with it has been a badly designed pedal box using a cable clutch. The spot weld on the pedal box kept breaking. VW eventually agreed to recall all Polos to reinforce them with a gas weld. This resolved the pedal box breaking every six months. However, it did not resolve the sharp clutch bite which keeps stalling the car in first gear especially while going uphill. Twenty years of owning it and I still have not mastered the bite and have to rev in order to make sure it does not stall.
The other issue has been that I have never been happy with it’s low end torque. The top end is great. I can drive it at 100 mph on freeway our all day, no problem.
The milliage on it after twenty years is 130 K. The engine has lasted well all this time. I have changed timming belts every 4 years, the fuel pump once, clutch three times, and once reconditioned the ABS brakes.
Our government demands cars older than five years must undergo annual road worthiness tests. This year the car failed due to high emissions. One mechanic said it is due to piston rings wear costing €1600 to repair. Another suggested it is head gasket. He investigated the coolant resovior having oil mixed in it conlucing the head gasket needs replacing due to a leaky water pump leak and radiator. He is proposing to recondition the cylinder head, timing belt, valves, radiator at a total cost of €2300. The car has zero rust and very clean chasis.
Every one has been telling me it is not worth sinking more money on a twenty year old car despite the fact that it is rust free. To be honest if it was not for the clutch/pedal box issue, I was toying with the idea of rebuilding the engine and wait until I have enough money for new or almost new BRZ or GT86.
Then I realized the new Fiesta ST-3 with mechanical LSD, 3 cylinder 1.5 turbo charged Ecoboost is a car than can afford. It seems perfect for low consumption, low tax, low insurance and very satisfyingly torquey engine, fantastic handling and suspension. I just worry about how bullet proof those 3 cylinders would be over time. I red that the 1.0 and 1.6 (beween 2012 and 2014) ecoboost engines had overheating problems which Ford claims has resolved. The versions I am looking at are 2018 onwards. Brand new cars come with seven years standard warranty.
If there is any question over the Fiesta’s I might just decide to rebuild my Polo engine and wait till I have more money for a BRZ/GT86. I hear next year Suburu will be coming out with a 2.2 cc flat four. I have also been toying with the idea if I rebuild the Polo to then redesign a hydrolic clutch. This could be a dangerous rabitt hole raising the repair costs. It might also make the car livable for another few years.
I would love to hear your thoughts about the my Polo and the Fiesta ST-3 (post 2018 to 2020) proposal.
Many thanks in advance.
Siavash
This is a tough one!
That Polo isn’t worth rebuilding the engine for, whereas the Ecoboost in the Fiesta won’t hold up well over time.
How about the Yaris GRMN?
The trouble with rebuilding an engine, is that few know how to rebuild them correctly. You may be stuck with a bad engine post rebuild with zero resale value for the Polo.
However, if this is only for a stop gap measure until you upgrade to the BRZ, then find a used Fiesta, which is still in great condition, mechanically.
@inthrustwetrust
Thank your feedback. Do you know from experience or solid fact the Fiesta wont hold up? Regarding the Toyota GRMN, the Irish market is a strange one. For example, the official Mazda dealers will sell the 1.6 MX-5 but not the 2.0. Similarly you can get Hyundai i30N but not the Velocte. The GRMN are available in the UK but not here. And if they eventually come to Ireland it wont be at the equivalant UK prices. I imagine it would be well beyond my budget in the Golf R territory. Whereas the GT86/Mazda MX5 and the Fiesta are well below the Golve R, Civic Type R.
@siawacsh
I’m going by the past track record of Ecoboost engines. The new ones are frankly still unproven. I’d rather wait and watch if the reliability improves rather than trust Ford on that one. Why would you want to be the beta tester for the manufacturer? Let them prove their reliability by good long term ownership reports.
Honestly, your best bet would be getting the GT86 without buying another super mini as a stop gap measure.
Also, how difficult is it to put in a used engine from a junkyard into your Polo, while you save up for the GT86?
I recently saw a 07 MX5 for sale. Visually it looked great. But it had 137K on the clock so I hesitated even checking it out because it was six hours away from me. It is sold now. But in future do you believe I should be worried about such high mileage. My twenty year old polo is only close to that amount of miles.
It all depends on the car’s maintenance & service history. I wouldn’t drive 6 hrs to inspect a car, but that’s just me. When buying used cars, go by mechanical condition. Avoid judging a car based on its cosmetic condition. Paint & dents can be corrected fairly cheaply when compared to an engine or transmission, failing.
What about Mazda MX-5?
@g-t
Thank you and yes I have considered the MX-5. I just find the impracticality unattractive. For starters the soft top does not suit Irish weather. Second, basic things like cup holders having to be placed on the passengers side. And as mentioned above the Irish dealers do not offer the 2.0 version. Only 1.6. The fact that I cannot carry more than one passenger is also a slight issue. The GT86 seems to have a bit more scope in the back seat. But still, I am a single man. If all else fails, I might still settle for a GT86 or MX-5 F version.
Tough, I'd probably not put any money into the Polo and get a bus pass, but that's just me.
I KNOW public transportation is a lot better in Europe
As for the Fiesta, they generally are unreliable, heres what Scotty says:
https://www.youtube.com/c/ScottyKilmermechanic/search?query=fiesta%20ecoboost
Hi Karem, that video did not say anything bad about the Fiesta 3 cylinder.