2011 Jaguar XF Supercharged 5.0 V-8, 36K miles. The six speed ZF automatic transmission works just fine and I would like to keep it that way. The transmission fluid pan has a filter that is built into the pan and cannot be removed. Since the transmission is working great, I assume that the filter inside of the pan is pretty clean. Do I need to replace the pan or just drain and fill?
Since the transmission is working great, I assume that the filter inside of the pan is pretty clean.
that means the filter is doing its job. It doesn't mean it's clean.
Do I need to replace the pan or just drain and fill?
you bought a top of the line $80,000 exotic sports car. Why start skimping on maintenance?
I'm not trying to skimp, just asking questions. And I paid less than $18K on Bring a Trailer a month ago, with records and CARFAX. A genuine classic in awesome condition, inside and out. NO WAY I would EVER pay new retail.. Divine intervention helps.....
If it's a classic then treat it like one. Change the filters.
We usually say to change the filter along with fluid change. So, if it were my Jaguar I would change the filter which in your case would mean changing the pan. It’s been 12 years so if you change it now you should be good for a while.
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Since the transmission is working great, I assume that the filter inside of the pan is pretty clean.
By that logic, then you should never have to change the filter as long as the fluid is changed often. That’s nonsense. Change it.
I assume that the filter inside of the pan is pretty clean.
Fluid still gets dirty, micron sized particles can get through the system. It only has 36k miles, so that's great. Depending on the filter media, you might spray throttle body cleaner or MAF sensor cleaner going the opposite direction compared to normal (basically flushing the transmission pan out). Stick new OEM fluid back in the transmission, and you should be good to go. Make sure to collect the exact same amount of fluid that came out of the transmission. Most high-end vehicles like that don't have transmission dipsticks. If yours has one, that's great.
NO dipstick, Just like my 2014 Lexus GX 460. People think that these are all closed systems with lifetime fluid. Wrong, of course. I think that I will just do the basic drain and fill. Yes, Scotty always says to catch the fluid and measure how much it is so that you can put the exact amount back in. I honestly don't think that the filter will ever be an issue as long as clean ATF is going into the system on a regular basis.
You're right on the money. People have been fooled. Every transmission gets just as dirty as the old ones.
The lie of "lifetime automatic transmission fluid" is old as the hills. I still have the owner's manual for a 1972 Hornet which says the transmission doesn't require any fluid changes, no servicing required at all. Fortunately at that time transmissions still at least had dipsticks so they could not be referred to as "sealed".
No 'magic' transmissions, yet? LOL!
A genuine classic in awesome condition, inside and out.
A 2011 isn't a classic car. It's 12 years old. Classics are 25+ years old.
Yep. "Classic" Jaguar to me was last millennium before it got passed around like the village bicycle and ultimately being sold to India.
When Ford bought them out, they actually improved tiny bit. Ever since, it's been a basically a dumpster fire of a brand. Rich men's cars only.
really? According to this article, "Ford has never managed to make money from its investment in Jaguar. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7313380.stm
It was still a losing investment for Ford, I should've clarified that, lol.
'Classic' In the sense that it is the last four-door supercharged V-8 Jaguar, unless they decide that hybrids and electric vehicles are the true dumpster fires.