I've recently been looking for my first truck. I've test drove both the 2020 Tundra and Ford F150. I love the feel of both. I was wondering which truck will last me the longest with little maintenance.
Tundra for the win....hands down
I just watched your video in which you discussed the Ford f150 and the Toyota Tundra. You said that the Tundra TRD Rock Warrior didn't come out until 2013. I have a 2011 TRD Rock Warrior. I would ask your research people to be a little more diligent when they do their research lest you lose credibility..
Thank you for the feedback.
Toyota Tundra or even an F150 seem like the route for you just from what you typed. Listen the bells and whistles are nice for about 8 yrs if your lucky. Then they just become money problems. If you go the F150 route I’d get a 2013-17 model with the 5.0 V8 OR if you’re looking for a gas saver I’d go 2018 F150 2.7 ECO. I say 2018 or newer because that’s when the 2.7 got duel injectors instead of just being a GDI motor.
Truck and save on gas, those words just don't go hand-in-hand. Look at 2010+ 4-runners, they came with a backup camera, and for the wife's "bells & whistles", you can always add an aftermarket (better than factory) head unit to satisfy the wife's needs.
The Tundra is better but when you see the prices of Tundras you may choose the F-150.
Hi Scotty from Chicago,
I'm thinking of buying a Ford F150 but recently heard their rear axles are rusting out soon after buying them. What's your opinion? Are they still a good truck? Should I wait to see what ford does about this rust issue or should I look at a Tundra or other trucks?
Thanks for your advice and thanks for being honest on YouTube.
adding @USAFdozerpilot who recently got an F-150 (2015) and had this issue
In a rust belt areas (like Chicago), … just like in most of Canada, trucks rust, … and rust fast! Period.
By far, the worst is RAM. Toyota very close second. Ford and GM are not that far behind the first two.
That said, … I would go for Toyota, as long as one is prepared to properly undercoat it. Yes, properly! Inside and outside. Frame especially, but a sheet metal structure, too. Toyota frames rust from the inside more than the other trucks. It’s a design, and perhaps a metallurgy as well, … and Toyota is ignoring its design for a quite long time now. They know it, they exchange frames in many cases when forced, … yet not addressing the root of the problem! Shame, …
F.S.
Thanks for the info. I'm only looking at Ford and Toyota, so that info helps.
Just saying Hello from a Chicago South Sider!
Do they still have Ziebart up there?
I solved the rusting problem in 2006.
I moved to Florida! 😎 😎
What do you want to do with this truck? Is it a pavement queen? You going to tow a lot with it? Work truck?
Yes Ford is having issues with rear axle premature rust. My 15 f150 had it but I just got it off and painted it.
No, Ford will not fix this issue unless they are forced to.
If you go Ford route stay away from 18 or newer 5.0s.
I still believe the Ford is more of a work truck/ towing consistently type overall in the lower trim packages. Not saying the Tundra isn’t but the Japanese are not interested in expanding on or developing their 1/2 ton truck line. That’s why the tundra has been the same thing year after year. Ford was doing good up until 18 and now they have ruined the 5.0 V8 completely. The ecoboost line is ehhhh if I went that route I wouldn’t buy it for towing it’d be more of a pavement queen or a tow the boat to the lake type of truck and I’d buy the 2.7, they seem to have less problems than the 3.5 and in 18 they got duel injectors. The 10 speed trans is again ehhh but I believe it has potential if Ford would get their act together.
it just really depends on what your plan is for this truck. Also, I usually always recommend to get the lower trim packages. Unless you absolutely want the high tech crap. But keep in mind American manufacturers don’t use quality electronic components. So my opinion is the less the better.
The tundra is going to be more reliable, and you say you are towing only 5000 pounds, so you don't need a diesel ford f250. The 5.7 tundra will work just fine for what you are doing. This engine in the tundra has been around for almost 15 years, and I think the current tundra is perfected by now. The 2500 cummins ram comes with a good diesel engine and a good transmission, but the rest of the truck is bad and loose and the actual truck components that are actually made by dodge are low quality. Overall, the tundra will be able to tow up to 10000 pounds and will work just fine for you. But, expect to pay a lot for one the way the market is these days.
I would go for the 6.7 if you plan to be towing for thousands of miles. The 6.7 is a great motor.
If you're just talking occasional short haul, the Tundras can be great trucks. Just don't expect towing to be great. You won't even feel that trailer behind you with a 6.7.
While Fords tend to depreciate more, diesel trucks will always be worth a fair amount of money. Something to keep in mind. A Tundra won't hold its value as well if you're planning on keeping it for 10 years or so.
I would personally go Powerstroke but if you're just getting a truck for occasional towing, you can go for the Tundra. They are both great trucks.
The Tundra will tow that no problem. That would be my choice. After that Form and then GM. Forget the Ram, as good as the Cummins engines and Aisin transmissions are the rest of it just has too much Fiat in it.
Get the Tundra.
You can get an older Ford f150 at a good price. The tundras will cost a lot more than the f150s.
Even though a vehicle is new, if they have been building the same model a while, you have some good info to go on. I think Toyota has not really changed the tundra in a good long while, so you should have plenty of info on reliability. Only downsides I know to Tundra is gas mileage, and not very comfy ride from what I hear.
hay scotty i want to know ur opinion which truck is better a ford f105 or a Toyota Tundra i myself would go with a Tundra but Tundra is so hard to come by or find or should go with the less capable but just as good Tacoma instead of the f150
i want something that will last forever with few problems and off road ready and capable like a Tundra (my first choice) and a Tacoma (my second choice) what is ur recommendation
What makes you think the 2022 model is going to be any better on gas than the 2021? And by any appreciable amount?
Thank you. I saw the spec sheet for 2022 SR5 package and it’s showing under normal driving conditions the fuel consumption is 23 mpg on highway and 17 mpg in city with average 20 mpg.
These mpg figures are based on theoretical, ideal driving conditions and never reflect reality.
hi Scotty,
today Toyota explained the design for the new engine for Toyota Tundra 2022. What you think about it?
My guess is that it probably hasn't been abused. The sales people usually accompany the customers on test drives which prevents people from getting to crazy. I think.
I would not trust any of the newer Ford F-150’s, so stay away from that one (any one really). You are better off with a used one with the 1st or 2nd Gen Coyote 5.0L V8 and 6-speed AT with the better model years 2013 through 2017 (2015 model year was first year of the current generation). Stay away from the Ecoboost, Powerboost, and 3rd Gen 5.0L V8 including the 10-speed AT. Much has been discussed already on these if you do a search on our forum.
Demo/Floor model vehicles are a great way to save money on new vehicles.
But read up on the F-150. Good chance you'll be disappointed with the quality.
Ford has done nothing but taint and destroy the F150. I love my 2nd gen 5.0. The 6 speed has been ok, it’s a clunky shifter and it heats up easy but it does the job. The quality of everything else is a disaster. My passenger rear door latch prematurely broke, my blower motor makes a loud humming noise on cold mornings and doesn’t go away until the motor comes up to temp. I love the look and a few other things about the truck but I will never buy a F150 again. I’ll move up to the 3/4 ton Fords from now on.
blower motors are fairly normal wear items I think . You can't really hold that against Ford.
The other stuff is bad though.
@mmj must be a recent ford thing. My 1992 F250 had 300k mi never had any whining. I could understand a 10-20 yr old vehicle but being only 6 yrs old? I feel like I shouldn’t have to worry about a blower motor that early.
I would say you're right about at that time when the electricals start to wear out... battery, alternator, blower motors etc. Door and window switches. You have reached the engineered lifetime of the vehicle. (just out of warranty of course).
You can't compare it to your '92. That was a different time. Apples and oranges.
@mmj it’s a shame, sad times we live in when a vehicle manufacturer that’s been around over 100 yrs and still can’t figure it out. Quit the in house method and sells out to these cheap overseas part manufacturers.
Oh they've figured it out. Don't worry about that!
They figured out that they can't make cars & trucks TOO durable, or they start to lose money.
You should expect them to have the wear and tear of a car that age with that mileage. You'll also want to replace the timing chain if that hasn't been done and generally do an overall tune up on it day 1.
I would have a mechanic inspect it prior to purchase so you know if there are any hidden issues with it.
Thank you sir, i thought the timing chain does not need to replace at all not like the timing built? Also what are the wear and tear items other than brakes, tires, battery?
Pretty sure @mod_man meant timing belt?
2010 was timing chain across all motors. Typically Toyota recommend replacement around 90k - 120k. Issues can happen once the chain gets higher up in mileage. Brakes, tires, battery, power accessories, fluids, rear differential, transmission, compression....I'd check them all, especially before paying $23k.
My bad.
No need. The Tundras were a mix of chains and belts up until, literally, 2010. 🙂
I saw on YouTube, some million miles Tundra didn't get the timing chain done until 300k.
Every owner is free to stretch their luck as much as they want.
Unless they’ve already been replaced before (and you know their age), who knows what all might break?
That’s part of the risk of buying used vehicles and you need to budget for the unforeseen, accordingly.
I agree with you sir, normally I do not buy a vehicle with this age but I considered this truck because everybody talking about the tundra that it can reach to 1 million mile that is why I thought 141k miles is nothing for this truck!
141,000 miles in indeed relatively low mileage for the Tundra, but you want to have it thoroughly inspected by a trusted mechanic, to look beyond the good cosmetic condition, like @mod_man suggested.
Oh it should have a lot of life left. I'd just hate for you to buy a problem vehicle as maintenance pretty much determines how far a vehicle can go. Getting it checked out is like cheap insurance. Also, most of those million mile cars, of any brand, are all highway mileage. Something to keep in mind. But they are great trucks.
Tundra hands down.
i've just bought my second tundra..my first one is a 01 4WD limited...still have it and it still runs like a top
Tundra no doubt! I have a Tacoma with 100k and runs like new!! No issues
Thank you all for the suggestions. Ended up finding a really good 2020 Tundra SR5 with 5757 miles. Kelly Blue Book Certified with $6000 worth of add ons for $46,900. Absolutely loving it! ❤
Hi Scotty, I'm considering between a 2014 Ford F150 Platinum ($37,000; 115,000 km) and 2015 Toyota Tundra Platinum ($31,800; 210,000 km).
Both are from dealer. The F150 is accident free, while the Tundra is "Clean Title No Clam Over $2000" according to the dealer.
What is your advice, and which vehicle should I choose?
Also, there is another 2015 Toyota Tundra 1794 edition ($32,000; 160,000 km) but with $13,000 "animal collision" damage. Should I consider this one?
Thank you very much.
