I know what Scotty would say, but we've got twins on the way and my wife likes the the Carnival because it doesn't look like a "minivan". What do you all think? I know it's not as bad as a Chrysler but what's the likelihood of this being a good vehicle? Thank you!
The Kia Carnival (Sedona) has a Lambda engine which is known for rattling valves which are very expensive to fix. It has been recalled for fires, over and over. The thing is, Kia doesn't know how to make engines. They've recalled six million vehicles just since 2015 for fire risk, and millions more are under investigation now (right up to current models). Their engines and transmissions often fail or catch fire days after leaving the factory. They've been fined a quarter of a billion dollars, because they knowingly ignore problems, and paid billions more in settlements to affected customers to shut them up.
- https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/kia-sedona-minivan-recalled-fire-risk/
- https://mednews365.com/kia-recalls-vehicles-for-fire-risk/
When will people learn? Ask your wife if she wants her kiddies trapped in this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5q_37sT1VQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iaMHhWkSNw
Holy crap
Perhaps if you show that to your wife she may have second thoughts about putting your family in one of those, as I suspect you are. An internet search for "Kia fires" will bring up additional nightmare scenarios.
Holy crap is right. These death trap cars are no joke. You don't have to take it from me. Listen to this Kia employee
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/hyundai-misfires/#post-80160
You Sir (or mam, or non binary lol) are a wizard. That news report was enough to convince my wife that perhaps the Kia is not the best choice.
It might be OK if you don't expect it to last beyond 100K miles. Leasing might not be a bad idea if you don't put crazy miles on. That way it will be under warranty the entire time you have it and at the end of the lease you might want to look for something completely different.
+1 @chucktobias
Very slim, if you intend to keep it over >100,000 miles.
What’s the connection between twins & the Carnival?
Congratulations, btw!
We are looking for a three row vehicle with captain seats in the center row. Something that's new and problem free. The car seats we use are a little large to all be on the same row
I know this is out there, but how about a Highlander? Since you don’t like the Sienna. Also, they’re priced similarly for a brand new one.
Oh I wish, but my wife is so picky. I think I might take her to the dealerships and let her test drive them. Maybe then she'll see that the Kia's is a cheaply made car.
Well she probably wouldn't think so just because of the interior sometimes.
Yeah the Kia’s do have a nice interior. It’s what’s hidden from view, that’s the problem.
I f you want a Carnival of headaches, expensive repairs and a lot of waiting for a tow, go ahead and get one.
I would lease the car. The fact is that the Kia Carnival is a Kia Sedona. For the United States and Canada market, the Carnival was called the Sedona and was called the carnival in other markets besides Asia. I would not even think about buying.
I would lease it, the carnival is basically the Sedona replacement. They are better than the crappy Chrysler Pacifica and Grand Caravan/Voyager. However, it's not as good as an Odyssey or a Sienna.
Well, I mean your wife is your boss lol. Anyway, I would lease the Carnival to get out of your wife's system. Just make sure to put the vehicle outside from mountainmanjoe's point of view. Otherwise, your house will be burned like other Kia victims did. Another good advice to keep in mind.
We are not recommending any Hyundai Motor Group products due to their poor quality/reliability. If you must get it, lease it and return before the warranty expires. But do not buy it at all costs.
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/why-all-the-hyundai-hate/
Taking your wife to the dealer to test drive on is the wrong Idea. Kia is great on styling and gadgets. Add that and a salesman trying to sell it your going to buy it. I have had my fill of Kia and salesmen. Careful research and a plan before you go look at even a dependable model is a must. Go see the Toyotas first. Buy a three year old model if you need newer. Also with todays car prices if you can wait for the bubble to pop you will lose less money.
