[Solved] Hyundai Motor Group
Scotty viewer has his Optima burn to a crisp on the side of the highway.
Ki-ahhhhhhh! and Hyundon't
A Hyundai owner, and employee (mechanic) came here to tell us what he thinks about them...
guys watch this video documentary by CBC done in Canada exposing Hyundai and Kia poor quality engine fires and recalls.
Kia went bankrupt TWICE in 1997 and 2007, and had to be rescued by Korean banks and Hyundai both times. It wouldn't surprise me if it happens to them again.
More employees weigh in ...
Another HMG employee blows the whistle.
Kia's disregard for human safety is disgusting
The U.S. government’s road safety agency has paid more than $24 million to a whistleblower who reported that Hyundai and Kia moved too slowly to recall over 1 million vehicles with engine problems.
A week after those fines were issued, Kia and Hyundai recalled 130,000 vehicles in the U.S. The complications stemmed from a manufacturing issue that could cause the connecting rod bearings to wear out and the engines to fail, Hyundai said. A damaged connecting rod could puncture the engine block, causing the engine to stall. It also could let oil leak onto hot surfaces, increasing the risk of a fire.
Engine failure and fire problems with Hyundais and Kias have plagued the companies for more than five years, affecting the owners of more than 8 million vehicles.
|Hyundai/Kia Fire and Engine Recalls from 2010||TOTAL|
|Recall Date||NHTSA Recall ID||Vehicle Make||Vehicle Model(s)||# Vehicles Recalled||Fire?||URL|
|2010-08-31||10V388||KIA||2010 Soul, 2011 Sorento||35,185|
|2017-03-31||17V224||KIA||2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage
|2017-03-31||17V226||HYUNDAI||2013-2014 Sonata and Santa Fe Sport||572,000|
|2017-09-20||17V578||HYUNDAI||2017 Santa Fe||420|
|2018-01-09||18V026||HYUNDAI||2006 Sonata, 2006-11 Azera||87,854||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/hyundai-recalls-azera-sonata-fire-dangers.shtml|
|2018-12-19||18V907||KIA||2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage
2013-14 Santa Fe Sport
2009-2011 Elantra Touring
|2020-02-14||20V088||KIA||2006-2010 Sedona and 2007-2009 Sorento||228,829|
|2020-07-02||20V393||HYUNDAI||2011-2012 Elantra and Sonata Hybrid
2012 Accent and Veloster
|2020-08-27||20V519||KIA||2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento||440,370||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/kia-hecu-recall-engine-fires.shtml|
|2020-08-27||20V520||HYUNDAI||2013-15 Santa Fe Sport||151,205||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-engine-fires-recall.shtml|
|2020-12-01||20V746||HYUNDAI||2012 Santa Fe
2011-13 and 2016 Sonata Hybrid
2012-2015 Forte and Forte Koup
2011-2013 Optima Hybrid
|2021-03-04||21V137||KIA||2017-19 Cadenza, 2017-21 Sportage||379,931|
|2021-03-10||21V160||HYUNDAI||2015-16 Genesis, 2017-2020 Genesis G80||94,646|
|2021-03-10||21V161||HYUNDAI||2019-21 Genesis G70||552|
|2021-03-25||21V208||HYUNDAI||2021 Genesis G80, GV80||147|
|2021-04-01||Canada||KIA||2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul||19,634||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml|
|2021-04-13||21V259||KIA||2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul||147,249||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml|
|2021-04-21||21V277||KIA||2022 Kia Carnival||2,744|
|2021-04-28||21V301||HYUNDAI||2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster||125,840||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml|
|2021-04-28||21V303||HYUNDAI||2013-15 Santa Fe Sport||151,205||🔥 (re-recall||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-abs-recall-fires.shtml|
|2021-05-01||Canada||HYUNDAI||2013-15 Santa Fe Sport||52,300||🔥 (re-recall||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-abs-recall-fires.shtml|
|2021-05-01||Canada||HYUNDAI||2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster||61,000||🔥||https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml|
|2021-05-03||21V308||HYUNDAI||2021 Santa Fe||2||🔥|
|2021-05-10||21V331||KIA||2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento||440,270|
|2021-07-08||21V519||KIA||2021 Sorento, 2021-22 K5||21,575|
|2021-07-09||21V524||HYUNDAI||2021-22 Santa Fe, Sonata||15,752|
|2021-09-17||21V727||HYUNDAI||2017 Hyundai Tucson, Sonata Hybrid||95,515|
|2022-02-02||22V051||KIA||2016-2018 Kia K900||126,747||🔥||https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V051-3267.pdf|
|2022-02-03||22V056||HYUNDAI||2016-2018 Hyundai Santa Fe||357,830||🔥||https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V056-6220.pdf|
|2022-05-06||22V312||HYUNDAI||2013-2014 Sonata||215,171||🔥 (re-recall||https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/11/hyundai-sonata-fuel-line-recall/|
Catastrophic Engine Failure recalls
"[T]he Kia Forte is the second most complained about Kia car. According to the data compiled, the worst model year is the 2010 Kia Forte. This model experiences engine problems as well.
However, the model year with the most complaints of all is the 2012 Kia Forte. The most-reported problem is with the 2010 Kia Forte. Apparently, this model year deals with a knocking sound when the vehicle is operating."
"The worst Kia Optima model year is the year 2011. Like the other two cars on this list, the Kia Optima deals with engine problems. The model year with the highest volume of complaints overall is the 2013 Optima. The most-reported problem is engine failure in that 2013 model year.
The three worst problems for the Kia Optima are all related to issues with its engine. The number 1 worst problem, for instance, is engine failure for the 2011 Kia Optima at 102,000 miles. This issue costs about $4,600 to repair. The 2015 model year, however, costs even more at $6,000 according to the data on CarComplaints.com. It also occurs at a lower mileage of around 61,000 miles."
"The Kia Rio is the third most complained about Kia car... This model experiences engine problems. In fact, engine problems are considered to be the worst problem for the Kia Rio."
My father-in-law just had his 17 Elantra'e engine blown up, with 60k miles, regular oil change.
Another flaming Hyundai nearly burns down a shop
My daughter has a 2011 Hyundai Sonata. Within warrantee timing but 2nd owner. Didn’t receive recall notice and because she is so young, can not afford to take her car to the dealer for maintenance. 2 months after the engine recall ended, her engine broke. We have appealed and appealed in a million ways to Hyundai and they won’t help her. For what could be life long loyalty for her and the chance for her to spread good words about Hyundai, they refuse to help at all. This leaves a 20 year old without a car and all of our friends and family a bad taste regarding Hyundai. Hyundai clearly admits to the world they made a s*** engine yet refuse to fix it or even help to fix it.
I will tell you from personal experience that they do not engineer cars properly. Take for instance my sisters Veracruz I have worked on a few times. They put the alternator below the head and they had a recall because the valve cover gaskets leak onto the alternator. I replaced one alternator unknown that there was a recall and it was a 6 hour job to remove all the cooling fans to get the thing out of there. Then a couple years later the one I replaced went bad again. I went to the internet and found the recall and thankfully they replaced the valve cover gasket and the alternator at no charge. It also fried the battery which was fortunately under warranty as it was only a year old. The rear brake calipers kept locking causing the rotors and brakes to overheat. On a vehicle with just over 100,000 miles. I have had my share cars in the past and put many miles on them. Things happen, I get it. But people need to understand that morons in charge of engineering and designing these cars have no clue what their doing. I would never buy one of these things. Plus, a drunk ran a red light and took the front off her car. We found a mechanic to patch it up but parts are hard to find as this guy had to order parts from Europe to get everything working again.
Like Chuck said above, my daughters 2013 Santafe Sport engine IMPLODED when I took it to get pizza for the family!!!!!! Had 70k miles and was over maintained by me! Incredible!!!! Luckily Hyundai covered with and entire NEW longblock replacement. Took 9 weeks due to pandemic crap with logistics and boats sitting in the harbor. Hate to say it but NOBODY is more committed to Quality than the Japanese. I worked as an engineer in product development with them on new product designs and they were all about "root cause" and "counter measures" when fixing and qualifying design issues. I guess thats why I now have Honda and Toyota products.
This 2022 Kia Sportage caught on fire.
"park outside away from other cars or structures" ouch!
- Hyundai/Kia class action settlement (2020/21) - Vehicles suffer from a defect that can cause engine seizure, stalling, engine failure, and engine fire. (4 Million vehicles affected in USA). Canadian link.
- Hyundai Engine Recall Information
- Oil Consumption Lawsuit (04/2022) - Large number of vehicles affected (Davy Cho v. Hyundai Motor Company, Ltd., 8:22-cv-00448)
- Class Action Claims Hyundai Pushed Kona, Ioniq Batteries Too Far, Creating Spontaneous Fire Risk (Case 8:21-cv-01324 Sebastien Friche v. Hyundai Motor Co. et al)
2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T remains to this day the only car I have driven that the motor blew up in while I was driving. At 38k miles. Nobody can run fast enough to sell me a Korean car.
2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.0t : Honestly my favorite car. It was fast and fun, and very comfortable. But out of nowhere, it caught on fire while I was driving down the freeway. Never buying a Hyundai again
Coworker recently lost an engine in her Kia Soul at 70,000 miles.
She said they replaced it with no question.
Had to wait several weeks because of an engine backlog.
Brand new 2022 Sorento
This is the reason for 2020 Elantra engine recalls.