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Hyundai Motor Group (HMG) Problems

(includes Hyundai, Kia, Genesis models)
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Scotty viewer has his Optima burn to a crisp on the side of the highway.


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Ki-ahhhhhhh! and Hyundon't


Epic. Thanks for the late night laugh!

😂, the pic!

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A Hyundai owner, and employee (mechanic) came here to tell us what he thinks about them...




We all know Scotty's opinion


It never ends with Hyundai


guys watch this video documentary by CBC done in Canada exposing Hyundai and Kia poor quality engine fires and recalls. 

@abrar7478 finally this is getting out there more. Hyundai/Kia are a despicable company that knowingly makes garbage and tries to cover it up. I hope everyone watches that documentary.

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Kia went bankrupt TWICE in 1997 and 2007, and had to be rescued by Korean banks and Hyundai both times. It wouldn't surprise me if it happens to them again.

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More employees weigh in ...



Another HMG employee blows the whistle.

Kia's disregard for human safety is disgusting


The U.S. government’s road safety agency has paid more than $24 million to a whistleblower who reported that Hyundai and Kia moved too slowly to recall over 1 million vehicles with engine problems.


A week after those fines were issued, Kia and Hyundai recalled 130,000 vehicles in the U.S. The complications stemmed from a manufacturing issue that could cause the connecting rod bearings to wear out and the engines to fail, Hyundai said. A damaged connecting rod could puncture the engine block, causing the engine to stall. It also could let oil leak onto hot surfaces, increasing the risk of a fire.

Engine failure and fire problems with Hyundais and Kias have plagued the companies for more than five years, affecting the owners of more than 8 million vehicles.


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Safety Recalls



Hyundai/Kia Fire and Engine Recalls from 2010 TOTAL    
Recall Date NHTSA Recall ID Vehicle Make Vehicle Model(s) # Vehicles Recalled Fire? URL
2010-08-31 10V388 KIA 2010 Soul, 2011 Sorento          35,185  
2011-04-25 11V256 KIA 2004-07 Spectra          58,322  
2013-04-01          186,000 Airbags
2013-04-01          623,000 Brakes
2013-04-01        1,700,000 Brakes
2015-01-16 15V015 KIA 2014 Forte          86,880  
2015-09-04 15V566 HYUNDAI 2009-2011 Accent          99,500 Brakes
2015-09-10 15V568 HYUNDAI 2011-2012 Sonata        470,000 🔥
2016-11-10 16V815 KIA 2008-09 Sportage          71,704 🔥
2017-03-31 17V224 KIA 2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage
2012-2014 Sorento
2017-03-31 17V226 HYUNDAI 2013-2014 Sonata and Santa Fe Sport        572,000  
2017-09-20 17V578 HYUNDAI 2017 Santa Fe                420  
2017-09-21 17V586 KIA 2017 Sorento                  62  
2018-01-09 18V026 HYUNDAI 2006 Sonata, 2006-11 Azera          87,854 🔥
2018-04-20 18V257 KIA 2017 Niro          27,029  
2018-04-24 18V260 HYUNDAI 2017 Ioniq          10,156  
2018-09-25 18V666 KIA 2017-2018 Niro          27,030  
2018-10-05 18V704 HYUNDAI 2017-18 Ioniq          10,575  
2018-10-25 18V754 KIA 2018 Stinger          16,011  
2018-12-19 18V907 KIA 2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage
2012-2014 Sorento
2018-12-28 18V934 HYUNDAI 2011-2014 Sonata
2013-14 Santa Fe Sport
2019-02-05 19V063 HYUNDAI 2011-13 Tucson        120,000  
2019-02-15 19V101 KIA 2011-12 Sportage          32,296  
2019-02-22 19V120 KIA 2012-16 Soul        378,967  
2019-03-14 19V204 HYUNDAI 2013 Veloster          16,487  
2020-02-04 20V061 HYUNDAI 2007-2010 Elantra
2009-2011 Elantra Touring
       476,111 🔥
2020-02-14 20V088 KIA 2006-2010 Sedona and 2007-2009 Sorento        228,829  
2020-02-21 20V100 KIA 2013-2014 Optima        141,774  
2020-02-21 20V101 KIA 2011-2012 Sedona          51,465  
2020-02-28 20V121 HYUNDAI 2013-2014 Sonata        206,896  
2020-07-02 20V393 HYUNDAI 2011-2012 Elantra and Sonata Hybrid
2012 Accent and Veloster
2020-07-08 20V399 KIA 2020 Sedona            5,385  
2020-08-27 20V518 KIA 2019 Stinger            9,443  
2020-08-27 20V519 KIA 2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento        440,370 🔥
2020-08-27 20V520 HYUNDAI 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport        151,205 🔥
2020-09-04 20V543 HYUNDAI 2016-2021 Tucson        652,054 🔥
2020-10-13 20V630 HYUNDAI 2019-2020 Kona            6,707  
2020-12-01 20V746 HYUNDAI 2012 Santa Fe
2011-13 and 2016 Sonata Hybrid
2015-16 Veloster
2020-12-02 20V750 KIA 2012-2013 Sorento
2012-2015 Forte and Forte Koup
2011-2013 Optima Hybrid
2014-2015 Soul
2012 Sportage
2020-12-30 2020-648 HYUNDAI 2016-2021 Tucson        144,700 🔥  
2021-03-04 21V137 KIA 2017-19 Cadenza, 2017-21 Sportage        379,931  
2021-03-10 21V160 HYUNDAI 2015-16 Genesis, 2017-2020 Genesis G80          94,646  
2021-03-10 21V161 HYUNDAI 2019-21 Genesis G70                552  
2021-03-25 21V208 HYUNDAI 2021 Genesis G80, GV80                147  
2021-04-01 Canada KIA 2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul          19,634 🔥
2021-04-13 21V259 KIA 2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul        147,249 🔥
2021-04-21 21V277 KIA 2022 Kia Carnival            2,744  
2021-04-28 21V301 HYUNDAI 2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster        125,840 🔥
2021-04-28 21V303 HYUNDAI 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport        151,205 🔥 (re-recall
2021-05-01              1,500 Seats
2021-05-01 Canada HYUNDAI 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport          52,300 🔥 (re-recall
2021-05-01 Canada HYUNDAI 2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster          61,000 🔥
2021-05-03 21V308 HYUNDAI 2021 Santa Fe                    2 🔥  
2021-05-10 21V331 KIA 2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento        440,270  
2021-07-08 21V519 KIA 2021 Sorento, 2021-22 K5          21,575  
2021-07-09 21V524 HYUNDAI 2021-22 Santa Fe, Sonata          15,752  
2021-09-17 21V727 HYUNDAI 2017 Hyundai Tucson, Sonata Hybrid          95,515  
2022-02-02 22V051 KIA 2016-2018 Kia K900        126,747 🔥
2022-02-03 22V056 HYUNDAI 2016-2018 Hyundai Santa Fe        357,830 🔥
2022-05-06 22V312 HYUNDAI 2013-2014 Sonata        215,171 🔥 (re-recall
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Catastrophic Engine Failure recalls

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2017-04 572,000 Seizure
2017-04 618,000 Seizure
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2021-04 167,000 block rupture
2021-05 187,000 block rupture
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Motor Biscuit:

"[T]he Kia Forte is the second most complained about Kia car. According to the data compiled, the worst model year is the 2010 Kia Forte. This model experiences engine problems as well.

However, the model year with the most complaints of all is the 2012 Kia Forte. The most-reported problem is with the 2010 Kia Forte. Apparently, this model year deals with a knocking sound when the vehicle is operating."


"The worst Kia Optima model year is the year 2011. Like the other two cars on this list, the Kia Optima deals with engine problems. The model year with the highest volume of complaints overall is the 2013 Optima. The most-reported problem is engine failure in that 2013 model year.

The three worst problems for the Kia Optima are all related to issues with its engine. The number 1 worst problem, for instance, is engine failure for the 2011 Kia Optima at 102,000 miles. This issue costs about $4,600 to repair. The 2015 model year, however, costs even more at $6,000 according to the data on It also occurs at a lower mileage of around 61,000 miles."


"The Kia Rio is the third most complained about Kia car... This model experiences engine problems. In fact, engine problems are considered to be the worst problem for the Kia Rio."


Do I see a trend here?

My father-in-law just had his 17 Elantra'e engine blown up, with 60k miles, regular oil change. 


Another flaming Hyundai nearly burns down a shop



My daughter has a 2011 Hyundai Sonata. Within warrantee timing but 2nd owner. Didn’t receive recall notice and because she is so young, can not afford to take her car to the dealer for maintenance. 2 months after the engine recall ended, her engine broke. We have appealed and appealed in a million ways to Hyundai and they won’t help her. For what could be life long loyalty for her and the chance for her to spread good words about Hyundai, they refuse to help at all. This leaves a 20 year old without a car and all of our friends and family a bad taste regarding Hyundai. Hyundai clearly admits to the world they made a s*** engine yet refuse to fix it or even help to fix it.


I will tell you from personal experience that they do not engineer cars properly. Take for instance my sisters Veracruz I have worked on a few times. They put the alternator below the head and they had a recall because the valve cover gaskets leak onto the alternator. I replaced one alternator unknown that there was a recall and it was a 6 hour job to remove all the cooling fans to get the thing out of there. Then a couple years later the one I replaced went bad again. I went to the internet and found the recall and thankfully they replaced the valve cover gasket and the alternator at no charge. It also fried the battery which was fortunately under warranty as it was only a year old. The rear brake calipers kept locking causing the rotors and brakes to overheat. On a vehicle with just over 100,000 miles. I have had my share cars in the past and put many miles on them. Things happen, I get it. But people need to understand that morons in charge of engineering and designing these cars have no clue what their doing. I would never buy one of these things. Plus, a drunk ran a red light and took the front off her car. We found a mechanic to patch it up but parts are hard to find as this guy had to order parts from Europe to get everything working again. 


Like Chuck said above, my daughters 2013 Santafe Sport engine IMPLODED when I took it to get pizza for the family!!!!!! Had 70k miles and was over maintained by me! Incredible!!!! Luckily Hyundai covered with and entire NEW longblock replacement. Took 9 weeks due to pandemic crap with logistics and boats sitting in the harbor. Hate to say it but NOBODY is more committed to Quality than the Japanese. I worked as an engineer in product development with them on new product designs and they were all about "root cause" and "counter measures" when fixing and qualifying design issues. I guess thats why I now have Honda and Toyota products.

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Genesis too



This 2022 Kia Sportage caught on fire. 


"park outside away from other cars or structures" ouch!

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2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T remains to this day the only car I have driven that the motor blew up in while I was driving. At 38k miles. Nobody can run fast enough to sell me a Korean car.


2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.0t : Honestly my favorite car. It was fast and fun, and very comfortable. But out of nowhere, it caught on fire while I was driving down the freeway. Never buying a Hyundai again


Coworker recently lost an engine in her Kia Soul at 70,000 miles.

She said they replaced it with no question. 

Had to wait several weeks because of an engine backlog.


Brand new 2022 Sorento



2020 Kia 2.0L Nu engine
The hole in the cam is deeper than the pin is long, and it'll walk inwards, sometimes sheering off and almost always destroying the cvvt. Dealership gets a couple of these per week.


2021 with 4K miles. HVAC box cracked, causing water to drain onto the floor.


This is the reason for 2020 Elantra engine recalls.

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