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Hyundai Motor Group (HMG) Problems

(includes Hyundai, Kia, Genesis models)
 

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Being a prior owner of a 2015 Hyundai Elantra. The overall QC is just not there. I will say the Korean manufactured vehicles seem to be better than the ones out of the Alabama plant. However, there is ample proof that Kia/Hyundai have big issues building motors incorrectly. They just can’t seem to figure it out. And that 100k mi warranty, Hyundai will fight you to the death over anything failing prematurely. They’ve tried skirting past the fact they are having to replace all these motors that are catching fire and all the other issues they’re dealing with. 


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North America

"Over the last several years, Kia and Hyundai have recalled more than 6.5 million vehicles for defects that could cause fires including models from 2010 all the way to brand new 2021 vehicles"

https://www.click2houston.com/consumer/2021/06/21/millions-of-vehicles-are-at-risk-of-catching-fire-is-yours-one-of-them/

Hyundai/Kia Fire and Engine Recalls from 2010  TOTAL     
     12,659,816    
Recall Date NHTSA Recall ID Vehicle Make Vehicle Model(s)  # Vehicles Recalled  Fire? URL
2010-08-31 10V388 KIA 2010 Soul, 2011 Sorento           35,185  
2011-04-25 11V256 KIA 2004-07 Spectra           58,322  
2013-04-01             186,000 Airbags https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2013/hyundai-elantra-recall-air-bag-problem.shtml
2013-04-01             623,000 Brakes https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2013/kia-recalls-brake-light-switch.shtml
2013-04-01          1,700,000 Brakes https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2013/hyundai-recalls-brake-light-switch.shtml
2013-04-01 Canada           361,000 Brakes https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/hyundai-kia-recall-361-000-canadian-vehicles-1.1381578
2015-01-16 15V015 KIA 2014 Forte           86,880  
2015-09-04 15V566 HYUNDAI 2009-2011 Accent           99,500 Brakes https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/hyundai-recalls-cars-engine-fires.shtml
2015-09-10 15V568 HYUNDAI 2011-2012 Sonata         470,000 Engine https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/hyundai-recalls-cars-engine-fires.shtml
2015-09-25 2015428 HYUNDAI 2011-2012 Sonata           33,786 Engine Transport Canada Recall # 2015-428
2016-11-10 16V815 KIA 2008-09 Sportage           71,704 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2016/kia-recalls-sportage-engine-fire-complaints.shtml
2017-03-31 17V224 KIA 2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage
2012-2014 Sorento
        618,160  
2017-03-31 17V226 HYUNDAI 2013-2014 Sonata and Santa Fe Sport         572,000  
2017-09-20 17V578 HYUNDAI 2017 Santa Fe                420  
2017-09-21 17V586 KIA 2017 Sorento                  62  
2018-01-09 18V026 HYUNDAI 2006 Sonata, 2006-11 Azera           87,854 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/hyundai-recalls-azera-sonata-fire-dangers.shtml
2018-04-20 18V257 KIA 2017 Niro           27,029  
2018-04-24 18V260 HYUNDAI 2017 Ioniq           10,156  
2018-09-25 18V666 KIA 2017-2018 Niro           27,030  
2018-10-05 18V704 HYUNDAI 2017-18 Ioniq           10,575  
2018-10-25 18V754 KIA 2018 Stinger           16,011  
2018-12-19 18V907 KIA 2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage
2012-2014 Sorento
          71,653  
2018-12-28 18V934 HYUNDAI 2011-2014 Sonata
2013-14 Santa Fe Sport
        150,730  
2019-02-05 19V063 HYUNDAI 2011-13 Tucson         120,000  
2019-02-15 19V101 KIA 2011-12 Sportage           32,296  
2019-02-22 19V120 KIA 2012-16 Soul         378,967  
2019-03-14 19V204 HYUNDAI 2013 Veloster           16,487  
2020-02-04 20V061 HYUNDAI 2007-2010 Elantra
2009-2011 Elantra Touring
        476,111 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-elantra-and-elantra-touring-cars-recalled-fires.shtml
2020-02-14 20V088 KIA 2006-2010 Sedona and 2007-2009 Sorento         228,829  
2020-02-21 20V100 KIA 2013-2014 Optima         141,774  
2020-02-21 20V101 KIA 2011-2012 Sedona           51,465  
2020-02-28 20V121 HYUNDAI 2013-2014 Sonata         206,896  
2020-07-02 20V393 HYUNDAI 2011-2012 Elantra and Sonata Hybrid
2012 Accent and Veloster
        272,126  
2020-07-08 20V399 KIA 2020 Sedona             5,385  
2020-08-27 20V518 KIA 2019 Stinger             9,443  
2020-08-27 20V519 KIA 2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento         440,370 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/kia-hecu-recall-engine-fires.shtml
2020-08-27 20V520 HYUNDAI 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport         151,205 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-engine-fires-recall.shtml
2020-09-04 20V543 HYUNDAI 2016-2021 Tucson         652,054 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-tucson-recall-12-fires.shtml
2020-10-13 20V630 HYUNDAI 2019-2020 Kona             6,707  
2020-12-01 20V746 HYUNDAI 2012 Santa Fe
2011-13 and 2016 Sonata Hybrid
2015-16 Veloster
        128,948  
2020-12-02 20V750 KIA 2012-2013 Sorento
2012-2015 Forte and Forte Koup
2011-2013 Optima Hybrid
2014-2015 Soul
2012 Sportage
        294,756  
2020-12-30 2020648 HYUNDAI 2016-2021 Tucson         144,700 🔥 Transport Canada Recall # 2020-648
2021-03-01 21V127 HYUNDAI 2019-2020 Hyundai Kona Electric
2020-2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric
            4,696 🔥 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2021/RCLRPT-21V127-1095.PDF
2021-03-04 21V137 KIA 2017-19 Cadenza, 2017-21 Sportage         379,931  
2021-03-10 21V160 HYUNDAI 2015-16 Genesis, 2017-2020 Genesis G80           94,646  
2021-03-10 21V161 HYUNDAI 2019-21 Genesis G70                552  
2021-03-25 21V208 HYUNDAI 2021 Genesis G80, GV80                147  
2021-04-01 Canada KIA 2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul           19,634 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml
2021-04-13 21V259 KIA 2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul         147,249 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml
2021-04-21 21V277 KIA 2022 Kia Carnival             2,744  
2021-04-28 21V301 HYUNDAI 2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster         125,840 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml
2021-04-28 21V303 HYUNDAI 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport         151,205 🔥 (re-recall) https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-abs-recall-fires.shtml
2021-05-01 Canada HYUNDAI 2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster           61,000 🔥 https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml
2021-05-01 TC2021253 HYUNDAI 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport           52,304 🔥 (re-recall) https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-abs-recall-fires.shtml
2021-05-01                 1,500 Seats https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-recalls-2021-elantra-seatback-problems.shtml
2021-05-03 21V308 HYUNDAI 2021 Santa Fe                    2 🔥  
2021-05-10 21V331 KIA 2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento         440,270  
2021-07-08 21V519 KIA 2021 Sorento, 2021-22 K5           21,575  
2021-07-09 21V524 HYUNDAI 2021-22 Santa Fe, Sonata           15,752  
2021-09-17 21V727 HYUNDAI 2017 Hyundai Tucson, Sonata Hybrid           95,515  
2022-01-25 22V031 KIA 2017-2019 Soul, Sedona, Forte         410,619 Airbags https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V031-6787.PDF
2022-01-25 Canada             58,000 Airbags  
2022-02-02 22V051 KIA 2016-2018 Kia K900         126,747 🔥 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V051-3267.pdf
2022-02-03 22V056 HYUNDAI 2016-2018 Hyundai Santa Fe         357,830 🔥 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V056-6220.pdf
2022-02-03 Canada             80,926 🔥  
2022-05-06 22V312 HYUNDAI 2013-2014 Sonata         215,171 🔥 (re-recall) https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/11/hyundai-sonata-fuel-line-recall/
2022-05-19 22V354 HYUNDAI 2019-2022 Hyundai Accent
2021-2023 Hyundai Elantra
        239,000 seatbelt shrapnel https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40104435/hyundai-recall-exploding-seatbelts/
2022-08-18 22V626 KIA 2020-2022 Telluride           36,417 🔥 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V626-4406.PDF
2022-08-18 22V633 HYUNDAI 2020-2022 Palisade         245,030 🔥 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V633-4843.PDF
2022-08-18 Canada               6,871 🔥  
2022-09-19 22V703 KIA 2016-2023 Sorento, Sportage           70,887 🔥 https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V703-6415.PDF
2022-10-06 22V746 HYUNDAI 2021-2022 Hyundai Santa Fe, Santa Criz, Sonata, Veloster, Elantra, Kona           53,142 DCT https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V746-3189.PDF
2022-10-06 22V760 KIA 2021-2023 K5, Sorento           69,038 DCT https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V760-2899.pdf
2022-10-06   Canada    8,700 +  DCT  

There are thousands more recalled vehicles. I just stopped working on the table because it became way too much work, so consider it the tip of the iceberg.


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Scotty viewer has his Optima burn to a crisp on the side of the highway.

 

https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/my-kia-almost-killed-me/

 


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A Hyundai owner, and employee (mechanic) came here to tell us what he thinks about them...

 

 

 

 

 

https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/postid/79991/


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We all know Scotty's opinion

 


Class action lawsuit against Hyundai Motor Group for vehicles burning too much oil, covering almost every engine and vehicle made in the last 10 years:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rzy9efCospQ


More Hyundai Group baloney. Kia Soul oil burners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwA-6CWY6U


General video about problems and recalls
https://youtu.be/tpYPV6iHnHM?si=drZuAvxqlsmOHvYU


A recall due to fire risk at 2:38
https://youtu.be/LY9HyHN_exU?si=o3RZLn9bSSRJu7-b


Lawsuit: cars are easy to steal
https://youtu.be/_-JMYN5EW8U?si=oWb4_2FEGTIkTl5Z


Recall due to a danger of rolling away while parked
https://youtu.be/5yylRjjqc2o?t=259


Recall due to seat fire risk
https://youtu.be/NfPDkJrZlOo


Class action lawsuit due to blown engines
https://youtu.be/ndTEqodKyQQ?t=227


New engine burning oil
https://youtu.be/vw7htWaUsn8?t=215


Scotty reads an email
https://youtu.be/GH5PCfHzIsU


A refund due bad anti-theft system and a recall of Genesis

https://youtu.be/aEI36cLEEi8


Recall of new cars due fuel pumps
https://youtu.be/8mPtu0pb8sw?t=293


Fuel cells' cars recall due fire hazard
https://youtu.be/pYbxsdqpgzs


Hidrogen powered SUVs recall due fire risk
https://youtu.be/1epZ7vQg5WY?t=337


Hyundai and prison work
https://youtu.be/OFyvqI8bhig?t=208


Hyundais and Kias are the most stolen vehicles in the U.S.

https://youtu.be/MIuA1NBCb9Q?t=310


Recall due fuel defect
https://youtu.be/30UnS_SqbDc?t=538


Scotty viewer has an experience with an engine blowing up and Kia refuses to replace it even though they should

https://youtu.be/Hh27suUIUxU?si=1_PfhUBdHzdX8nuX&t=335


Kia denies free engine replacement
https://youtu.be/Hh27suUIUxU?t=335


@g_t its the same video I uploaded


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Kia went bankrupt TWICE in 1997 and 2007, and had to be rescued by Korean banks and Hyundai both times. It wouldn't surprise me if it happens to them again.


Kia shares:


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KIA AND HYUNDAI ARE TOTAL CRIMINALS ON THIS!!!!  Do a quick google search and you'll see in April of '22 a Class action lawsuit has FINALLY been brought against Hyundai / Kia for EVERY 4 cylinder car they've made in the last 10 years and , because of car shortage , they are totally getting away with this.  It's NOT normal. It is a risk of fire with excessive oil.  It will destroy the mass air flow sensor, any one who says "Just add oil" has no idea what they are talking about. My new 2020 Soul only had 9,000 on it and started burning 1/2 quart every 1,000 miles. Sold it that day!  DO NOT EVER buy a Kia.  The "fix" aka, software is a "knock sensor" which means "IF" it even works, and I know no-one that's ever seen the sensor notify, it would bee too late.... if the pistons are knocking, at the point the engine is already destroyed.  EVERY SINGLE 2.0 KIA engine should be replaced.   The service tech at the Horne Kia in Gilbert AZ could not hold a straight face after I brought the car in 2 times.  I went to to buy an oil filter and was talking the the parts guy at the same dealer.... told me he was looking for a new job... It was non stop people coming in with the same oil burning problem.    Thanks for letting me bitch and moan LOL.   There are so few places talking about this and it's wrong.   Kia Souls 2020 through 2022 have an engine defect and burn oil. Do not buy!!!


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https://youtu.be/2iaMHhWkSNw

guys watch this video documentary by CBC done in Canada exposing Hyundai and Kia poor quality engine fires and recalls. 


@abrar7478 finally this is getting out there more. Hyundai/Kia are a despicable company that knowingly makes garbage and tries to cover it up. I hope everyone watches that documentary.


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Another HMG employee blows the whistle.

Kia's disregard for human safety is disgusting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNcpuBmTnI

 

The U.S. government’s road safety agency has paid more than $24 million to a whistleblower who reported that Hyundai and Kia moved too slowly to recall over 1 million vehicles with engine problems.

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A week after those fines were issued, Kia and Hyundai recalled 130,000 vehicles in the U.S. The complications stemmed from a manufacturing issue that could cause the connecting rod bearings to wear out and the engines to fail, Hyundai said. A damaged connecting rod could puncture the engine block, causing the engine to stall. It also could let oil leak onto hot surfaces, increasing the risk of a fire.

Engine failure and fire problems with Hyundais and Kias have plagued the companies for more than five years, affecting the owners of more than 8 million vehicles.

 


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Catastrophic Engine Failure recalls

---Date--- --Vehicles-- -Problem-- URL
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2017-04 572,000 Seizure https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2017/hyundai-recalls-sonata-and-santa-fe-engines-seize.shtml
2017-04 618,000 Seizure https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2017/kia-recalls-optima-sorento-sportage-engines-seize.shtml
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2021-04 167,000 block rupture https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml
2021-05 187,000 block rupture https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml
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February 25, 2025 - The 2021 recall involving Kia Soul and Kia Seltos vehicles with the 2.0L Nu engines has been extended up to 2023 vehicles (another 137,000 units). The piston rings were not heat treated properly. This leads to damage to the piston and cylinder, seized connecting rod bearing, and ultimately causing the block to become punctured, and oil leaking out onto hot exhaust components, and fire.

 

Kia engine piston ring recall letters are expected to be mailed April 4, 2025.

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Kia claimed years ago that the heat-treating process was corrected with engines produced as of June 30, 2020.

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https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2025/kia-engine-replacement-recall-follows-4-engine-fires.shtml


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Motor Biscuit:

"[T]he Kia Forte is the second most complained about Kia car. According to the data compiled, the worst model year is the 2010 Kia Forte. This model experiences engine problems as well.

However, the model year with the most complaints of all is the 2012 Kia Forte. The most-reported problem is with the 2010 Kia Forte. Apparently, this model year deals with a knocking sound when the vehicle is operating."

 

"The worst Kia Optima model year is the year 2011. Like the other two cars on this list, the Kia Optima deals with engine problems. The model year with the highest volume of complaints overall is the 2013 Optima. The most-reported problem is engine failure in that 2013 model year.

The three worst problems for the Kia Optima are all related to issues with its engine. The number 1 worst problem, for instance, is engine failure for the 2011 Kia Optima at 102,000 miles. This issue costs about $4,600 to repair. The 2015 model year, however, costs even more at $6,000 according to the data on CarComplaints.com. It also occurs at a lower mileage of around 61,000 miles."

 

"The Kia Rio is the third most complained about Kia car... This model experiences engine problems. In fact, engine problems are considered to be the worst problem for the Kia Rio."

 

 
Do I see a trend here?

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My father-in-law just had his 17 Elantra'e engine blown up, with 60k miles, regular oil change. 


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More employees weigh in ...

 


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My daughter has a 2011 Hyundai Sonata. Within warrantee timing but 2nd owner. Didn’t receive recall notice and because she is so young, can not afford to take her car to the dealer for maintenance. 2 months after the engine recall ended, her engine broke. We have appealed and appealed in a million ways to Hyundai and they won’t help her. For what could be life long loyalty for her and the chance for her to spread good words about Hyundai, they refuse to help at all. This leaves a 20 year old without a car and all of our friends and family a bad taste regarding Hyundai. Hyundai clearly admits to the world they made a s*** engine yet refuse to fix it or even help to fix it.


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I will tell you from personal experience that they do not engineer cars properly. Take for instance my sisters Veracruz I have worked on a few times. They put the alternator below the head and they had a recall because the valve cover gaskets leak onto the alternator. I replaced one alternator unknown that there was a recall and it was a 6 hour job to remove all the cooling fans to get the thing out of there. Then a couple years later the one I replaced went bad again. I went to the internet and found the recall and thankfully they replaced the valve cover gasket and the alternator at no charge. It also fried the battery which was fortunately under warranty as it was only a year old. The rear brake calipers kept locking causing the rotors and brakes to overheat. On a vehicle with just over 100,000 miles. I have had my share cars in the past and put many miles on them. Things happen, I get it. But people need to understand that morons in charge of engineering and designing these cars have no clue what their doing. I would never buy one of these things. Plus, a drunk ran a red light and took the front off her car. We found a mechanic to patch it up but parts are hard to find as this guy had to order parts from Europe to get everything working again. 


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Genesis too

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSfgeM11lm4


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This 2022 Kia Sportage caught on fire. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zesq4tQcTdM


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"park outside away from other cars or structures" ouch!


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Lawsuits

 


@imperator Hageman vs. Hyundai

TLDR Hyundai tried to be sleazy and use a loophole to force people into private arbitration and the courts struck down and said no. A win for us but that’s why you don’t buy a Hyundai in the first place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/s/qBq74fyy2a


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2016 Hyundai Sonata.

Disposable car; ready for the crusher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw54i8Ke5TM

 


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2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T remains to this day the only car I have driven that the motor blew up in while I was driving. At 38k miles. Nobody can run fast enough to sell me a Korean car.


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My own relative became a victim couple of years ago. She was stuck in a traffic jam in Montréal and thats when her 2010 Tucson caught fire and added more chaos and panic to already fed up and exhausted drivers stuck in traffic around her.


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2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.0t : Honestly my favorite car. It was fast and fun, and very comfortable. But out of nowhere, it caught on fire while I was driving down the freeway. Never buying a Hyundai again


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2020 Kia 2.0L Nu engine
The hole in the cam is deeper than the pin is long, and it'll walk inwards, sometimes sheering off and almost always destroying the cvvt. Dealership gets a couple of these per week.


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Theta engine "initial quality"


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Another flaming Hyundai nearly burns down a shop

 

https://youtu.be/1jG1OsM0vgI


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My sister's 2016 Hyundai Sonata has 69,000 miles and is already burning 1 quart of oil. Working on that car is a pain. A vehicle should not be having this type of problem at that mileage.


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