Why all the Hyundai hate?
I’ve seen it referred to a few times now that Hyundai Motor Group is not known for quality and that it has been on a downward trend since 2010. Yet, they (and siblings Genesis and Kia) offer one of the best, if not THE best, standard warranty in the industry and, in recent years, have topped or been near it on several JD Power “Initial Quality” and “Dependability” lists. They rank lower in CR rankings, but are still typically listed among the more reliable brands. The Telluride/Palisade have been very well-reviewed in their segment since their introductions to the market as well.
Outside of Kia inexplicably introducing CVTs to a couple of their models in the last year or so, what makes these brands so bad in 2021? I fully understood poor sentiments in the early 2000’s, but not today. Whatchagot?
Here we go again
Sure. From now on, we (including Scotty) all love Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Maserati, … you name it.
As long as you don't get one of their cars that has metal shavings in the engine or will spontaneously combust in your driveway (don't keep it in the garage) you'll probably be OK with a Hyundai/Kia product for 100,000 miles or so. However a lot of people here are looking for cars that will last 300,000 miles or more and you're much more likely to get that with a Toyota or Honda.
If you believe JD Powers and Consumer Reports, then you probably believe in Astrology and that the earth is flat.
Nothing you say is new. We've heard all the explanations before ...
Yes, very reliable in breaking, burning in flames, ....
This is not an isolated incident. It's because of constant, systemic problems like this that most of us here keep warning people against Hyundai and Kia vehicles.
I would beg to differ as GM vehicles are rarely quality products.
I would take a GM vehicle over Korean any day, because they don't do this ...
My Hyundais felt more like a Volkswagen
That's an insult to VW, which is hard to do.
VWs are pretty junky, but at least you don't need to replace engines on them or worry about them burning your house down.
They are not "made like junk." They ARE junk.
They offer that warranty because you're going to need it. Bottom of the list quality.
That's why the warranty doesn't transfer to a new owner unless its "Hyundai Certified", meaning their tech looks at it, makes sure it has 4 wheels and runs at the time, and slaps a sticker on it so they can get paid AGAIN.
I wouldn't drive/recommend one to anyone, anywhere.
Hyundai has a bad image for cars they used to make 20-30 years ago, and they were known for making cars “less fun then drowning” and wining the worst car of the year… on a few different occasions…
Personally I actually like what Hyundai has been doing recently, cheap, simple and reasonably nice enough to drive…
I used to own a 3rd generation Accent, was such a simple and nimble car to drive. Modern nasty dual clutches with overly heavy steering wheels and stiff suspension just can’t match Hyundai’s that still tend to feel like good old 90s cars.
I do get some flak for liking them, but they’re not terrible (WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE)
they’re just not built to last over 130k-140k miles like many other cars in the same categories from Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Nissan and others.
See this short recent article, which documents large fines and payouts:
My lawn mower has a higher resale value now than when I bought it.
“The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration just released a news bulletin with a “park outdoors” order for certain Hyundai and Kia models at risk of catching on fire. This applies to approximately 485,000 vehicles, including the 2014-2015 Hyundai Tucson, 2016-2018 Hyundai Santa Fe, 2017-2018 Santa Fe Sport, 2019 Santa Fe XL, 2014-2016 Kia Sportage and 2016-2018 Kia K900.”
We had a 1990 Hyundai Pony. At a little bit over 100k km manual gearbox broke down. Once before that it shifted from 1st gear into neutral itself while driving uphill with 4 other people in car.
The 1994 manual one had the smoothest shifting so far. But also did not last long.
Does Kia/Hyundai make good reliable cars?
I had one kia cadenza 2011 v6 3.5 L in the first year the door light bulb fright and the plastic cover the headlight stop cracked. And at the 60k miles cover casket replaced and the engine went bad.
And at the 80k miles the steering rack got replaced.
Basically that was the worst car i ever bought i babied that car changed the oil every 2k miles.changed the transmission fluid at 50k miles.
I see one of these posts every couple of weeks. I feel like we either have a troll, or someone from Hyundai Corporate in this forum.
I'll spare you my personal horror story with Hyundai, as the have been many shining examples listed in this thread.
But sure, if you like spontaneously combustible engines, horrid customer service, and an "industry leading" warranty that has more loopholes than a congressional bill; buy yourself a Hyundai/Kia. Nevermind the decades (maybe centuries) worth of experience on here advising against it.
16 822 miles and the transmission behaves like this and the fact that the Kia dealer couldn't find any trouble codes even after their so-called "software fix". I even read people's comments in other videos that they traded their Tellurides for something else because the transmissions went out and they were pretty low mileage (like 16k-30k miles from what I have seen).
Honestly, I just laugh when people/fanbois talk about how much better they are and how cool they are but they don't realize that they are made like junk. 🤣
The latest -
Newest addition to the Kia/Hyundai mess.
Depends on some models and the owners. Unlike japanese cars where you can have some for rough use, korean cars cannot be used hardly or so. However, they are better quality now. Much better than they were in 2000-2010!
They are lovely cars, first hand. We have a Hyundai Accent 2012 model and it completes a decade with us this month . We are very light drivers and have never strained the engine or transmission.
Touchwood, we havent had problems with the car. The engine, transmission are ok.
I have a Santafe 2013 which i got used 6 months ago and had 140 K kms on the odo. There are only random small plastic built issues. Again, touchwood, it has been a good car.
Haha, don't listen to all the baloney about Hyundai, Kia, Genesis. They are all junk and heck I would rather buy a Nissan over any Korean car even if they aren't the most reliable. Kia, Hyundai, and Genesis all try to make everything look pretty and seem like u are getting a good deal, but they cut a lot of corners when building them and they break before 100k miles.
New Santa Fe
They’re not terrible, but they’re still prone to have a few minor problems here and there, with the possibility of major problems down the line.
I just traded in a 2011 Santafe with 120K and a 2008 Veracruze with 200K plus. I bought 2 Kia's. The old cars were running just fine and during their lives there were no major breakdowns. I am told after 2012 they had engine problems but I must have missed that.
I see from your videos that you are not a fan of Kia and Hyundai. They do seem to have reliability issues in the U.S.
In the UK however they have a very good reputation. Have you any idea why this should be?
They come with great warranties too. The Kia has 7 year and the Hyundai has 5 year.
Is it just the U.S. manufactured ones that have issues?
Their warranties are not great because they consistently dishonor them. Sounds good on paper, but when something goes wrong, they look at you and say "That's normal." These are poorly designed and poorly built vehicles.