I've driven Ford Escapes since 2007. I've never had an issue until my 2020, which has been a nightmare.
A couple of questions:
The 2021 Toyota Highlander looks about my speed. It seems like the V6 is the smart option on that.
I have read tons of good things about the Kia TellURide & Kia Sorento. They do look nice. They seem to have very high customer satisfaction. I know Scotty doesn't like them, but what's the overall opinion? Are all of these rankings that wrong?
My other potential is the 2021 Lincoln Nautilus when it releases. It has the tech I like and generally has decent impressions (the ones I can find at least).
I'd love some honest feedback, particularly on the Kia's. The ratings are high, the warranty is great.
Thank all of you so much for offering an opinion.
Kiahhhhhhhs are great if you like cars that turn into raging fireballs
Kia/Hyundai quality is terrible and Lincoln is at the absolute bottom of most reliability lists.
The Highlander is the best choice out of all those by FAR.
I see that said a lot here, but it actually pretty hard to find evidence about Kia quality.
Their warranty is solid too. I will at least test drive one.
Hey, to each their own. Just know you're going to need that warranty repeatedly and they are going to try and get out of repairs every time. As I tell people, I'm only letting you know what I see and hear every day. But it's your money, so if you want to buy one go ahead. Just remember: NO warranty covers your time lost dealing with the issues.
I do know that. I just spent 40+ out of 90 days in loaners with Ford issues.
You are correct.
Yeah Ford is awful. I sued them over my 2018 F150 and it took a full year of litigation to finally get them to buy back the truck. I have been there as well so I understand.
That is terrible. I just started the Buy back process, but so far, I have gotten lucky and things have been easy.
How long do you plan to keep the vehicle? If you plan to keep it for as long as possible and put as much mileage on it (let’s just say hundreds of thousands of miles), then of the vehicles you mention above the Toyota has the best chance of doing that. It’s all about probability, no guarantee here, but it has the best chance of having minimal issues and last the longest. The others will fall short. Also, you have to take these rankings from these magazines or ‘reviewers’ with a grain of salt.
3-6 years. I'm a tech junkie, so at whatever point there is considerably better tech and/or safety features, I will change.
3-6 years. Then that opens it up. In that case, longevity is not a priority, so you can get the vehicle you like best after test driving. I would strongly recommend you lease the Kia or the Lincoln and lease it for no longer than what the bumper to bumper warranty is. I would still go for the Toyota if it were me, because I want to reduce my visits to the dealer (even under the warranty period).
Thank you, that is a very smart take.
No questions asked get the V6 Highlander it will last the longest by a very significant margin. Kia/Hyundai cars are known for a. blowing up or b. having their engines blow up. Lincoln? Thats just a Ford, the same vehicle you said was a "nightmare" at just 1 year old.
You wanted evidence of Kia quality?
https://kiaenginesettlement.com/
2011–2018 and certain 2019 Kia Optima, 2012–2018 and certain 2019 Kia Sorento, and 2011–2018 and certain 2019 Kia Sportage vehicles suffer from a defect that can cause engine seizure, stalling, engine failure, and engine fire, that engine seizure or stalling can be dangerous if experienced, and that some owners and lessees have been improperly denied repairs under the vehicle’s warranty.
Contrarian take: Kia is moving from niche to mainstream, and you get a lot more for your money than most other brands (especially Toyota). The reviews of the telluride are stellar, and you gotta admit its a handsome vehicle.
Enough to offset the reliability issue? It wouldn’t be for me, but I can understand why people like it.
I agree. The Telluride and the new Sorento are both very nice. I don't usually keep vehicles over 3-6 years, as I like tech updates and having different things. I've honestly thought about leasing too.
Now, I won't be one of the people paying 10K over the sticker for a Kia. I'll wait it out. I'm certainly going to test drive them, since I'm curious.