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Compact Luxury SUV recommendation? MB GLC 300 thoughts?

  

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Hey scotty,

I currently drive a 6spd '05 Acura TSX and have loved it since I bought it (at around 90k miles, now at 138k miles).

My life situation has changed (now have a wife and baby) and am looking into SUVs for safety, and because the wife wants an auto 😀 . I don't plan on putting too many miles on it and intend on keeping it about 3-4 years. The only real requirement is it have a panoramic roof option so the baby can stare off into the sky.

The short list of vehicles I ended up test driving were:

  • 2019+ Acura RDX
    • This is a completely new product as I understand, not a rebadged Honda CRV like 2018s and prior
    • Love all the new gadgets and tech on their top-of-the line trim (Advance) like HUD, panoramic roof
    • Wind/road noise, bumpy ride
  • 2018+ Lexus NX
    • Drives terribly, Cramped, Interior feels cheap
    • No panoramic roof option
    • Cannot believe this is a Lexus product
  • 2020 Lincoln Corsair
    • Modern but cheap plastic interior, Rides smoothly, quiet cabin
    • Very expensive with all the addons
  • 2017-2018 Mercedes Benz GLC 300
    • Beautiful interior, Rides smoothly, quiet cabin, Panoramic roof

 

The GLC is the apparent winner. I've browsed the MB forums and owners mainly complain about squealing brakes (which simply need to be changed to non-OEM brakepads) and some wind/road noise (MB installs acoustic glass for free as a remedy)

 

So my questions is are there any known mechanical issues with the MB GLC 300 (2016+)?

  • How reliable is the powertrain? Is it a newly designed engine or transmission or is it tried and tested from other vehicles?
  • Anything on the vehicle that is particularly poorly designed / subject to failure?
  • Are there any other issues to be aware of?

 

My plan is to purchase one that is still under warranty (<4 years and <50,000mi) and purchase the official MB 3 year extended warranty which I've read is quite comprehensive. My plan is to dispose of the car at that point and perhaps move to an electric vehicle.

 

Appreciate your thoughts / insights


Bump for other thoughts. Has anyone tried to buy a used car from a dealer auction? Are there folks on this forum that could help facilitate access to that?


Bump for anyone who has insight into the powertrain reliability for the GLC-class


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It seems you're interested in a MB GLC 300 4Matic w/that huge glass roof. Well, we're a used dealership, and in our region we process about 7-9 vehicles/quarter. Some are the initial release 2016's, but we see most model years through 2020.

I like them. Partly because they're a slam-dunk sale, and partly because it's a rather nice, comfortable, classy ride.

Drivetrain is from the C-class sedan models (which date way back), and we find them to be quite reliable up to and beyond 160,000 miles of usage when given normal, period maintenance performed by qualified personnel.

The 2.0L I4 w/turbo mated with a good 9-speed transmission produces a nominal horsepower rating (about 240), but be prepared for the very quick 0-60 acceleration times (our mechanics and lot people find excuses to "test" drive them).

However, I must speak to the use of "globally sourced" engines, transmissions, and other major components that first appeared in model year 2018 GLC 300 vehicles. In our limited experience, such major and minor components are of significantly lesser quality of manufacture than anything ever produced in Bremen or anywhere else.

Periodic maintenance and service is rather straightforward, mechanic access to almost every drivetrain and chassis system and components is surprisingly rather good, which makes it entirely possible for owners to do lower-level service and maintenance.

Major servicing/repairs, and even troubleshooting is altogether a different story, and can be very, very costly. Even the cost of the analysis equipment is exorbitant ! OEM replacement parts can be costly, but not necessarily the nightmare that some may speak of.

We do all we can to assure any vehicle we process is clear of any and all recalls and/or safety issues before any vehicle can even make the sale lot. That being said, clearing recalls of MB products, including the GLC 300 vehicles, can be time consuming and difficult, but hardly any worse than GM or Ford products, and far easier than several other makers products.

We encounter minor issues with interior trim, panels loose, seat operation, and other issues that could easily be encountered in virtually any other vehicle, and we simply correct them, but sometimes others may comment on such issues as major defects reflecting horrendous quality. They are most definitely not.

You mentioned the optional glass roof: Very rare, hard to find. But it allows passenger views of the sky that would never otherwise be viewable. My wife loves hers.

I've tried to be honest and candid. Please advise if I've mentioned anything erroneously.


@oldrangernut
Appreciate the detailed, thoughtful reply.

Sounds like I should stick to 2017s then (with the parts made in Germany)?

Do you have any links/sites I can read up more about the globally sourced parts and/or the quality of the powertrain? Would love to investigate further.


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Check the Lexus RX350. 

I understand you want to ditch the car after coupe or years, but if you are lucky and the MB works for you well, the money you loose during these years are a lot. 


@yaser
Thanks for the recommendation. I looked into the RX350 over the last couple days and it was next to impossible to find a used one with a panoramic roof option (it has been offered since 2016 according to Wikipedia). I'm not sure why that is, but the few vehicles that did have it were significantly more expensive (about $35-40k).

 

I haven't test driven it but the RX interior pictures look lackluster and cannot be compared to a GLC.

 

Secondly, I looked into how much I'd 'lose' to depreciation with GLC vs. RX350 (using caredge.com figures), it's about a wash:

 

MB initial price $28k --> 3 yr (-19%) --> $22.5k --> Cost of depreciation = $5.5k
Lexus initial price $35k --> 3 yr (-17%) --> $29k --> Cost of depreciation = $6k

 

Assuming maintenance costs are about the same (I plan on doing my own), I don't think depreciation is a significant factor (since I'm already buying a very depreciated vehicle).


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I'm sorry to say that but you are completely wrong regarding the depreciation and cost repairs. For depreciation, go to websites like CL and find out about appreciate in real world not fancy world that some websites live in. 

About the parts and labors, parts are much more expensive for MBs than Lexus, and this is just one part of the issue. You think you can work on your MB, maybe you can but you need awful lots of tools that I don't think you have. We are here to help out based on the experiences we have.

At the end, it is your money and you can do whatever you want. Good luck man.


@yaser
Any reason to believe CarEdge.com is not a reputable source? It's not run by the dealer mafia COX automotive, its a small mom-and-pop operation tracking vehicle values over time.

 

Maintenance is assumed be Service A/Service B as defined by MB (oil change, brake fluid flush, etc.) Most people have the tools to do that. Anything more comprehensive would be covered by the extended warranty as I mentioned.

 

I don't buy into the "all manufacturers suck just buy a Honda/Toyota" mantra. I'm taking a more thoughtful approach since every brand and every model has a different story. Even Hondas make some cars that people should avoid *ahem* Dream Engine *ahem*

 

Still looking for an answer to the powertrain questions if anyone has insight into that


Apparently, you already made your mind. Good luck with your choice. 


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