Do you recommend the 2023 Toyota Corolla or the 2023 Toyota Corolla Hybrid? Or do you think the 2022 versions of either or both is better and why?
Toyota makes the best hybrid technology out there and they've perfected it so if you want/need a hybrid then Toyota is number one on the list of reliability and quality. Now deciding between hybrid or not depends on your driving needs; if you do a lot of driving and particularly city driving then definitely hybrid will be good as far as gas mileage. But if you don't drive that much or not much city driving then gasoline only will be good. The 2023 will be the same as the 2022 according to what I am seeing online; in other words the 2023 won't be a new generation. Given the Toyota supply chain issues most likely you won't be able to get a 2022 model and your best bet would be going on the reservation list of a dealership for a 2023 model.
Okay thanks for your reply.
Depend on what do you want 2022 has 1.8 or 2.0 engine. 1.8 is super reliable proved by time. 2.0 is more hp 169 vs 139 and better MPG. So far the new 2.0 is ok but we don’t know what will happen in the future, because it has more plastic and more technology. 2.0 use 0w16 oil which many oil change shop don’t have it.
2023 will all be 2.0
hybrid is ok to buy better MPG, if you pay attention on battery cooling filters it is reliable. Worst case is after 12 years you spend 3000 for a new battery. But hybrid don’t have starter alternator and use less brake pads due to kinetic energy recovery system. If i drive a lot in city go hybrid is not a bad idea. But if you don’t drive that much and most highway driving just go with 2022 1.8. Cheaper for maintenance
Thanks. So the 1.8L engines are more reliable?
The 2ZR-FXE engine has been used since 2011. And the first ZR engine came out in 2007. And A20A-FKS engine is a very new engine, it is the smaller version of the A25A engine which came out in 2017. I have a 2018 Camry with an A25A engine, so far it is good, the A20A engine should be reliable. but it has a lot of plastic parts and many electric Motors for water pump fuel, pump, VVTI. Old engines use fewer plastic parts and more Mechanical mechanisms. So I would like to say 1.8 is 100% reliable，2.0 is no guarantee. But 2.0 engine has more power and better fuel economy.
Okay thanks again for your reply. I think I'll go with the 2022 1.8L Corolla LE regular gas engine.
Good, you also can ask for a better price because 2023 come out. I hope 2022 1.8 LE will have a good price.
Just remember to change your transmission fluid at 5 years or 50K-60K, just drain and fill. then drain and fill every 25K-30K 2.5 years, it is very important to do transmission fluid change for a CVT if you do not do it, it will fail at 120k to 150k. Do your first oil change at 1000 miles, and then do the oil change every 5k. drain and fill coolant every 4 years. I guarantee you the car will run forever.
Only use OEM fluid for your transmission many shops use multi-fluid which may have a chance to kill the transmission. my friend who is a Toyota mechanic seen too many times this happened. Even for dealerships, you need to ask them what kind of fluid they use, sometimes they use non-OEM fluid such as BG, if they told you non-OEM fluid is ok, ask them to write it down on your service record they used what product, if anything happened they have to replace your transmission.
Good, you also can ask for a better price because 2023 come out. I hope 2022 1.8 LE will have a good price.
This will never happen in this market. Toyota inventory is down to 36 hours and dealerships do NOT have cars sitting on their lots waiting for a customer to come buy them. People these days are buying cars from the dealerships incoming allocation which in many cases means the car hasn't even been built. In this market buying a gasoline only version at msrp is a great deal which you shouldn't even think twice about it.
I guarantee you the car will run forever.
Anything mechanical can and will break and a forever lasting car is literally impossible unless someone wants to constantly keep on spending huge money on keeping a car going even after it's not worth it anymore.
So the 1.8L engines are more reliable?
Even though the 2.0L engine is newer technology but it's not like it's the first generation of Corolla having this engine. Toyota has been using it for a while so I wouldn't be too concerned with it and I will buy one with this engine without being concerned.
2.0 is a dynamic force engine that only comes out 5 years. I think it is reliable for sure, but as reliable as 1.8L not sure.
5 years is enough for Toyota to figure out issues with the engine and fix them. We're not talking about Hyundai/Kia; it's a Toyota and they're pretty good at figuring out issues and fixing them especially after 5 years. Again it's not a first or second generation, it's been 5 years. You can't expect to wait 10 plus years to make sure something is reliable enough and then buy it because by then the technology probably has changed again.
Yes, if he would like to spend money to replace old plastic parts and different kinds of motors. For me, I will take 2.0 for performance. And I DIY my own car, so the cost is very cheap. But for 20 years of ownership, 1.8 will be cheaper if you always bring to shop to do it. depend on what you want. Some people get new cars every 3 years then all European cars are reliable, for me, I can DIY I will pick TOYOTA with the new engine, for my mom I told her to get a 1.8 old engine, she does not need power, she just needs a car never goes wrong as long as possible with general maintenance.
Not sure where the topic of European cars came from as that is not the topic here at all. As for this Toyota engine it has been out for 5 years already and I don't expect to see it not lasting less than 10 years with the regular maintenance. I'm not sure where you are coming with the idea that OP will have to constantly spend on replacing plastic parts and motors!! Yes plastic can last less but it doesn't mean it'll be constantly breaking down. So while you have strong feelings for your own opinions I will still say that a Toyota engine that has been around for 5 years is safe to say is reliable and will last long enough with the regular maintenance. Keep in mind newer cars are not made to last 20 plus years like they were before; not that they won't but in general the manufacturing changed.