So I bought my 2023 f150 XL stx package 4WD new with the v8 and 10R80 transmission and have noticed that there is harsh shifting from 3-5 gear. I already brought it into the dealership and they reprogrammed the TCM but and it was better for a little bit then it started acting up again. I saw there lawsuit against ford for the 10R80 and I think it just needs the updated CDF drum to fix the loose bearing. I have heard that it is nightmare to first try to get them to actually replace it as well as them actually getting the parts in. I've called my local dealership and they say it's about 8-12 weeks total time table to fix it hopeful that the new part would. I'm considering purchasing a used 2020 toyota tundra with the 6 speed and 5.7 v8 4WD due to it's track record and longevity. I brought my truck in to the dealership and the said I'd most likey end up having to pay at least 2000-3000 more dollars for a 2020 tundra with 18,346 miles. I know it's reliable but the gas mileage is the only thing that worries me. I need a v8 to pull my boat on the weekends but not sure if I should pull the trigger on the tundra or stick it out and try to get the ford fixed. Also not sure whether the dealership is being fair. The blue book value for the tundra is worth about $44,366 and My f150 is listed as about $39,500 and the tundra. Am having a hard time contemplating paying more for a used car and getting about 3.5 mpg lower in gas mileage (ford get about 16-17 and toyota I've head around (13-15). This truck will also be my daily driver as well and will be stored outside. I value gas mileage as I do decent mostly city driving getting to work but I also want something that's gonna be reliable and last forever. Any thoughts, recommendations, suggestions, or any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Bite the bullet and get the tundra they can last forever. Ford qualitie's garbage these days
So I bought my 2023 f150 XL stx package 4WD new with the v8 and 10R80 transmission and have noticed that there is harsh shifting from 3-5 gear. I already brought it into the dealership and they reprogrammed the TCM but and it was better for a little bit then it started acting up again. I saw there lawsuit against ford for the 10R80 and I think it just needs the updated CDF drum to fix the loose bearing. I have heard that it is nightmare to first try to get them to actually replace it as well as them actually getting the parts in. I've called my local dealership and they say it's about 8-12 weeks total time table to fix it hopeful that the new part would. I'm considering purchasing a used 2020 toyota tundra with the 6 speed and 5.7 v8 4WD due to it's track record and longevity. I brought my truck in to the dealership and the said I'd most likey end up having to pay at least 2000-3000 more dollars for a 2020 tundra with 18,346 miles. I know it's reliable but the gas mileage is the only thing that worries me. I need a v8 to pull my boat on the weekends but not sure if I should pull the trigger on the tundra or stick it out and try to get the ford fixed. Also not sure whether the dealership is being fair. The blue book value for the tundra is worth about $44,366 and My f150 is listed as about $39,500 and the tundra. Am having a hard time contemplating paying more for a used car and getting about 3.5 mpg lower in gas mileage (ford get about 16-17 and toyota I've head around (13-15). This truck will also be my daily driver as well and will be stored outside. I value gas mileage as I do decent mostly city driving getting to work but I also want something that's gonna be reliable and last forever. Any thoughts, recommendations, suggestions, or any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
You're picking the wrong vehicles if you "value gas mileage". Trucks are gas hoggy, any way you put it. Sure, the EcoBoost engine may be more gas efficient when you're not towing anything. As soon as you start towing anything with substance with an EcoBoost engine, gas mileage goes out the window because the turbocharger is operating. Turbochargers force more air into the engine's cylinders than is possible with a naturally aspirated engine. Increased air must be accompanied with more gas to maintain the same fuel/ air ratios. Gas mileage is also EPA-estimated, not based on hard facts; I once got 23 MPG going 55 MPH on the highway in my old Ford Ranger 4x4 during the most recent fuel crisis; that's compared to EPA estimated highway mileage of 17 MPG. it has a 4:10:1 rear end, and the 2WD model uses either a 3.08:1 rear end, a 3.53:1 rear end, or a 3.73:1 rear end (the larger the gearing ratio, the more torque you have, but MPG suffers).
You also picked the wrong transmission if you want that truck to last. It's a joint GM-Ford-designed automatic transmission. Those transmissions were so badly made, they issued a couple recalls for them, and they still aren't right; they were so bad, GM and Ford will never work together on any project ever again. I would be getting the Tundra if I were you. Any "fixes" Ford makes is just to keep it going until 60,001 miles, or 5 years; then, it's on you when the tranny breaks down. If they cared, they would have fixed those 2012-2020 Ford Fiestas that had PowerShift dual-clutch automatic transmissions. Ford knew they were defective when they were installing them, and they didn't care.
