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Hi! I would like your opinion on ethanol free gas. Is it better than gas with ethanol? Or shells V-power gas? Does ethanol free give more power or keep things clean better than with ethanol, etc?


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You'll get a little better gas mileage but probably not enough to offset the extra cost.


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When I had my Camaro SS I used the non-ethanol gas since premium was recommended anyway and I did get much better gas mileage, so it was worth it for me. But as for our Silverado, no doesn't justify the extra cost, especially since Brandon's been pres. But if we're filling up our gas cans for the law mower and other yard tools and the truck needs gas then I'll fill up while there.   


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the "reason" behind adding ethanol to gasoline is that it's going to save the planet. Otherwise you won't really notice a difference with 10% blend except poor economy.


Less corn for the rest of us.


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Ethanol free gas is better. Ethanol is harder on your car than pure gas and ethanol has less energy than gasoline so therefore you will get better fuel economy with pure gas. I have been told that Shell V-Power is pure gas.


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No you won't harm it, but you might get less power.

 


A Gen V 4.3L Vortec engine gains 12hp with E85 over straight gas.


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No. You may get slightly better mileage since burning ethanol makes less energy than gasoline but with a 10% mix it wouldn't be enough to make up for the higher price.


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Ethanol is alcohol and alcohol is something you drink to alter the mind, or just relax.  You can also use it to clean cuts and sores.  Since ethanol is a few steps from human consumption I think it better for anything but a gasoline substitute. That is why they limit the amount of ethanol in gasoline.  When putting ethanol inside a combustion engine the ethanol, in my opinion, acts more like a cleaner than a gasoline fuel.  Ethanol does have lower BTUs, energy, than gasoline.  Pure "gasoline" has oil that is a lubricant.  It is good for combustion engines.  If ethanol were good for cars the cars would not have to be "upgraded" to endure the cleaning action of the alcohol.

 

 

I fought ethanol as long as I could for the simple fact that it is built, manufactured, from what humans call "FOOD".  Why take food, that can be scarce as it is, and use it in cars?  To me that is similar to using a t-bone steak to wipe our butts. 


NASCAR switched to using E15 in their racecars...they perform just as great as pure gas. Other motorsport organizations are using higher blends too. It's a nice environmentally-friendly way to increase octane.
https://americanethanolracing.com/about/#:~:text=After%20extensive%20testing%2C%20NASCAR%20made,octane%20biofuels%20again%20and%20again.


If ordinary cars had specially built engines there would be no problem. It was all for "environmentally-friendly" Laws that cannot be supported by facts.


"One US gallon of gasoline contains 114,000 BTU of energy; depending on the time of year, and depending on what is in the gasoline. ... It takes one and a half US gallons of ethanol to equal the energy in one US gallon of gasoline; the reason... because ethanol only has 76,100 BTU's of energy per gallon." ...... Cars get less MPG on ethanol.


Ethyl alcohol is used for many things. Human consumption accounts for maybe 10%


Older Ford Ranger trucks before 2009, (not sure which year Ford changed the computer settings to run well on ethanol gas), run better with no ethanol. The Ford Ranger trucks we have had were shutting off at stop lights until we realized the problem was the ethanol gas. Unless someone knows of any other reason, we couldnt find anything else to fix that problem.


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Keep in mind that gas without ethanol has less octane compared to ethanol-blended gas. The whole point of blending ethanol in gas is to raise the octane and to have cleaner burning gas. Pure ethanol has an octane rating of 113, whereas pure gasoline is 85. You'll notice that pure higher-octane gas is more expensive because they use non-ethanol additives to increase the octane (anything race fuel oriented is expensive). Honestly, if anyone feels any difference between ethanol and non-ethanol gas, then it's all in your head. There's no way you'll be able to feel a noticeable difference with only 10% blended ethanol, let's just be real here. I have tried pure E0 91 octane in my BMW before (as I've mentioned numerous times before, I like to experiment around with this stuff)...no difference at all.


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Ethanol was making change because government could force their social designs on us.  Forcing change for no real reason.  Tree huggers in your gas tank.


"tree huggers" lol. It's just something we have to live with. After all, we only have one place to call home...EARTH. We should be implementing things like this to help our planet out. Would you rather get rid of all the gas-powered cars and switch to electric cars or keep your gas-powered car? I definitely don't want to be forced into an electric car market (2035 in California). I see great potential in making gas-powered engines more efficient and environmentally-friendly, and using ethanol is just one of them. I just don't see fully electric cars being "less polluting" compared to gasoline cars...manufacturing an electric car causes more emissions than manufacturing a traditional gasoline car because of the lithium ion batteries. Hybrids are great in my opinion...the best of both worlds.


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It is just soemthing we are being forced to live with.  It is The Law.  There is no real proof we are destroying the EARTH for any reason other than our existence alone.  To want to eliminate cows because of their farts will have a natural progression to restricting human life as well.

 

Every form of transportation created by mankind has had pollution of some kind.  In the end mankind is a cancer on the universe.  Before cars, in the old West and cowboys sat on horses we still polluted.  The streets of New York made people sick from all the horse poop.  Cars gasoline pollutes and so will electric cars.  The only difference in how mankind lives is who makes the most profit.  Environmentally friendly social restrictions are more to give new people profits from how we live.  There will be nothing mankind does that pleases everyone so enjoy any form of transportation while governments allow them.


Nicely said, I agree.


I also agree 100% but won't say any more since we are not supposed to get into politics here.


You can talk about whatever you like as long as you are respectful, and you're answering the question. Mr LSTSD asked if ethanol blended fuel is better than non blended fuel. If you aren't answering the question then you are polluting this page with your own agenda.

Please take a moment to read the forum rules. Profanity is forbidden on this forum. I won't remind you again.

Thank you.


No politics here. Just facts as I see'em. {black}:grinning:


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I agree with Jimz.  THE MAN definitely has his thumb on the back of our necks.  Only problem I see with ethanol is with older vehicles that use rubber seals in the fuel systems.  I had to replace all the rubber seals in my Weber carb with the newer Viton, green seals cause the ethanol was eating them up.  


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modern cars will run just fine on gasoline without ethanol


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In normal cars, it really does not make a difference. 


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If your car owner's book says E10, 10% ethanol in gas, or E85, 85% ethanol for flexfuel cars, is acceptable to put in your tank, it's up to you what to put in it. E0 is no alcohol in the fuel. You can try a tankful of each and see how your car performs in miles per gallon and power.  Then figure if the added cost of E0 gives you more miles per gallon and/or power compared to fuel with ethanol added to make it worth using all the time.

Non ethanol fuel is desired for watercraft and small engines that have seasonal use such as lawn mowers or snow blowers because the ethanol can separate from gas over time and ethanol can attract water and corrode internal components. Sta-Bil is one additive that's used to put in small engine tanks when non-ethanol fuel isn't available.


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E0 or non ethanol fuel has been used in all my engines for many years now- car, pickup, riding mower, push mower, string trimmer, 3 generators, tiller. In Missouri where I live, non ethanol gas is sold only as 91 octane or better. Other states may offer it in lower grades like 87. I believe my engines run better and will last longer. Count me has a yes vote for E0 gas.  https://www.pure-gas.org/


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I like running on non ethanol gas in my corolla. Can it do any harm to the engine?


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I’m surprised you can find non-ethanol gas readily - most gas stations have around 10% ethanol. It won’t do any damage, in fact the car will run better and give better fuel economy. If normal gasoline is available, I suggest you just stick with that though. Why go through the trouble of sourcing non-ethanol gas?


Why do they add ethanol if gas works better?


I think it helps boost the octane and ethanol is a cheap way to do that since it comes from corn.


I'm sure we've had a lengthy discussion about why we have ethanol blended fuel in the forum before.


I live in Buffalo NY and can get Non ethanol without any problem. The reason I like it is I get more power from the engine and much better gas mileage. Its actually cheaper to run in the long run than 10% ethanol. I was just worried about engine damage.


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Dear Scotty

 

I am 53 and have been working on cars since I was 16, even worked at an old full service Gulf station before Chevron brought it. Now my question is not specific to any year, make or model car but rather to the type of fuel to put into a car/truck. Is it safe to fill a newer car/truck say a 1990-2021 year model with the older non-ethanol unleaded, or should you stick to ethanol-unleaded, and burn the older non-ethanol unleaded in older cars that are like pre-1990 year models? I am asking I do not see any benefit to running the older non-ethanol unleaded over the newer unleaded that contains ethanol except in maybe a pre 1975, year model. 


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what is good about non ethanol blended fuel is if water or condensation gets in the gas It won't turn the ethanol into SUGAR and damage your motor. I use non ethanol fuel in all my small engines including my 1980 Honda cb900c. I had a problem with a brand new stihl chain saw and learned this lesson about ethanol in gas. They told me I did a little damage to the chainsaw with the bad gas, and I lost some compression in the motor.


water+ethanol=sugar ?


Were that so, my vodka would taste a lot sweeter!


@glen_stet you took the words right out of my fingers


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Is it worth putting ethanol-free gasoline in your car instead of regular gasoline? There are a good handful of gas stations selling non-ethanol gas in my neighborhood. I wanted to know if it is worth it putting it in a normal daily driver car.


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Hi Scott i went to put some Shell gasoline in my 2009 Toyota Camry, sometimes I use regular and sometimes I use the premium but I noticed this station also sells the non ethanol gas... Wats your idea about non ethanol gas vs regular or premium... Will it work better if I switch to non ethanol...thanks 

 

 


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Non-ethanol gasoline has a lower Octane rating than E-10. It's really meant for law mowing equipment and farm stuff, ethanol can damage rubber in those engines if they're not designed to handle it.

 

In a car, the rubber is more tolerant to the 10% ethanol by design, and it's added to raise the Octane rating, which basically means the gas is less likely to prematurely ignite during the compression stroke. It serves much of the same purpose as tetra-ethyl-lead, popularly known as leaded gasoline. If you run E0 gas in your car, the PCM will detect the lower Octane rating of raw gasoline and adjust timing to prevent premature ignition, which manifests as engine knocking. You'll lose performance and waste money, because straight gas is more expensive than E10, and having gas that is less tolerant of compression than the engine was designed for (regular E10) means the fuel won't burn as efficiently. 


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Where I am from it's called "Clear Gas" and is only available in 93 octane.  I use it in my 40 year old Toyota pickup and it runs very clean and well.


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Hey guys I just wanted to know if y’all think running ethanol free gas is worth it in a pickup truck. I have a 2011 Sierra 1500 with 111,000 miles and a 5.3 v8 flex fuel. I occasionally switch back and forth from regular to e15 and e85 but I wondered if I should give the ethanol free gas a try. I’ve been reading you get better gas mileage and that’s about it. So with that being said, do you guys think the extra money for the gas is worth it? Or am I wasting my money? Thanks for your help! 


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Ethanol-free gas is primarily used in lawn equipment and pre-1970s cars that weren't made to tolerate ethanol gasoline. It'll run in your modern truck, but I believe the Octane Rating is lower, so there could be a knock if your ECU isn't programmed to recognize it.

Cars not tolerating "gasohol" started to change in the late 1970s with the advent of unleaded gas and catalytic converters. Leaded gas trashes them. Generally, any vehicle that was made to run on leaded gas needs ethanol-free fuel, and you add the lead chemical to it. I believe TEL is the acronym. It's available at auto parts stores. Guys can rebuild their classic cars' engines with carbs and fuel lines as well, to tolerate ethanol, so it's kind of a niche thing. 


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Hello, I have an 2008 subaru impreza 2.5i with 122k miles. I've been big into testing different fuels in my car. First with top tier fuel, then BP fuel, and even BP highest end fuel (with claims cleans the engine even better.) Well recently I have come across non ethanol fuel and a BP station I go too offers it. I decided to get some and my car now feels it's dunning smothering and even more quite while accelerating in which it doesn't hesitate. My question here is does non ethanol fuel really help that much or should I simply be using something like Shell V power plus (BP equivalent didn't seem to do anything differently to my car) Non ethanol is more in price but seems to have benefits to me may outway the cost. Thank you for the help! 


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