Can any toyota owners tell me what it is like owning one and the driving feel and the reliability cause I hear a lot of great things about toyotas, but I want to actually know if their true.
Owning Toyota vehicles is awesome. They are some of my favourite.
I have a 2nd gen Sienna and I absolutely love it. It's 15 years old and coming up on 115K miles and it still rides incredibly smooth. I've only ever performed routine maintenance and it still runs like it's brand new - my mechanic says it's just barely being broken in. I think that's the best thing about Toyotas - as they age and rack up miles, they still feel the same as they did when they were new. You don't have to worry about stuff breaking or coming apart - they are very well engineered and built to last a long time. Sorry if I rambled on but hopefully that helps.
My father had an old 1997 Corolla and I loved the quality of it as a child. The car had a nice comfortable and quality feel to it. We rented cars a few years back one was a Dodge Dart and I hated it and one was a 2016 Corolla and it felt more modern than the old one and loved it! Didn't get to drive it though so I can't talk about that;(
Toyotas have a solid feel to them. I've owned a 2014 Tundra Platinum which I loved. Thing was a TANK and had more space in the crewmax than most New York City apartments.
Only downside: she loved the gas. 13 MPG was common. But I still miss that truck.
The reviews are actually true. If you just do a simple search on internet, you will find out nothing can beat those beasts.
Check out this video:
@yaser wow what a crazy video, thanks for posting! The seawater experiment was by far the best!
I have been driving my 1981 4x4 pickup for 30 years now and would never think about selling it. I have to admit to being a maintenance nut regarding vehicles. I have had my other vehicle for 18 years.
@doc that is awesome! Care to share a list of your top success strategies and maintenance routines with us?
Change oil, filter and pcv valve at 3000 miles. Transmission, transfer case and differential oil once a year. Also flush and refill cooling system and brake systems once a year. Start the vehicle and let it achieve operating temperature once a day, even if you don't drive it. Regular zerk joint lube. Tire pressure weekly. Run a 10 degree lower thermostat than factory. Use OEM parts whenever possible. Never rest your hand on the shift lever. Stuff like that.
Thanks for sharing @doc
You said its a 1981 Toyota 4x4. That makes it 40 years old,not 30 years old, correct?
I said I have been driving it for 30 years, It is 40 years old. I bought it when it was 10 years old.
My Tacomas (1998 owned used) (2016 and 2018 leased) = It felt safe, adventurous, unlimited, free and tough).
My 2010 Highlander Limited (just bought it used) = it feels safe, spacious, very comfortable, modestly luxurious, scalable as we want to start a family, durable, worry free, satisfied knowing I dont need to put much money into it and resale value is amazing, and its reasuring I can drive slow and smooth and pickup / go fast when I really need it).
My ma drives a 2003 corolla. It is still on the original drive train and suspension at 220k miles and was running well up until recently. Toyota invested a ton of money into their OEM parts, the Nippon Denso stuff is top shelf and can last forever. The unfortunate story with some of these older cars is that for as reliable as they can be, some dirty mechanic can still tamper with parts and cause all kinds of confusing symptoms. They do this with the hopes of milking some unsuspecting people a few grand a year. I am very grateful for Scotty and his repair videos. With his help I've been had the know-how to tackle all sorts of mechanical problems. I've been doing my own service and repairs for the last 8 years or so and help out my family and friends when I can with their maintenance.
one thing to keep in mind- the rare times Toyota does make defective cars they seem to run from responsibility..the defective Solaras they blamed on owners not doing proper maintenance (which turned out to be crap), and the recent problems with the new 8 speed Camrys they seem to chalk up to "it's supposed to run that way" (more crap). Customers filed class action lawsuits..there seemed to be no responsibility taken by Toyota. It seems like when problems come up with Lexus however, they bend over backwards to keep their customers happy. This is simply UNACCEPTABLE and would definitely influence my decision in buying a new Toyota vs Honda
My mom and my uncle used to drive fourth-generation (1997-2001) Camrys. I think it lasted around 100,000 to 200,000 miles. My mom told me the engine broke. Now, my uncle drives a 2016 Camry daily which is also very comfy. Also, my uncle used to drive a 2020 Toyota Rav4, but he gave to his daughter. Those are also comfy cars. Btw you still finding more used cars or you bought something.
My 2008 Camry is a good, comfortable ride. I don't need the excitement. But there were some serious quality control problems (radiator, rack-and-pinion, sun visors [twice], cruise control button, water pump, easily cracked windshield, an air housing unit that literally cracked and turned to plastic dust) early on. Some of this was covered under an extended warranty.
And then there was the infamous melting dashboard, which turns glue-like in the Central Texas summer sun. (Covered under the terms of a class-action settlement. I was lucky. The local dealer had one in stock).
The plastics on this generation (06-11) are cheap. I also had to replace a lower dash unit (from the salvage yard), as well as the center console armrest. The back trunk lock (remote enabled) also died. I bought a rebuilt unit.
Shocks were changed after seven years, and the A/C Evap unit had to be replaced two years ago.
There's also a developing problem with the clear coat --- the beginnings of clear coat cancer, so to speak.
The car has the infamous 2AZ-FE engine on my Camry. Mine was not eligible for repairs (because it did not burn quite enough oil). I change the oil every 3K, because of the defective oil holes.
The transmission is fine. No problems, whatsoever.
Having said that, and because I'm DIY attentive to fluid changes, the car rides VERY WELL for its age. If they are maintained, most Camrys will retain their better qualities.
But, there's been considerable upkeep, as you can see.
This Camry is near 150K and I plan on keeping this car as long as it's practicable.
2004 Toyota Prius since day 1. 295K miles thus far. It was essentially trouble free until 200K+, when the water pumps started to go out. Which do eventually wear out.
It’s amazing when a car just works for so long, with basic maintenance. And continues to work.
in comparison, I spent more on maintenance and repairs on a 2007 BMW, in the 4 years I had it since 2016, than I have on my all of the 17 years with the Prius.
Our Toyota family consists of 4 out of 9
2004 Prius
2009 Prius
2010 Lexus RX450H
1996 Tacoma 4x4 V6
Every Toy vehicle has some small problems but so few complaints as they are all minor. Basic maintenence usually.
My family member owns a Rav4 vehicle. It's still relatively new so I can't speak to the reliability/durability. This engine runs smoothly (the newer turbo ones are stupid loud), and it shifts smoothly.
The body panels are fitted well, and the doors close nicely. The upsized wheels are stupid and ridiculous.
But I hate the way they look. They are true to the name, because they look like children's TOYs. The interior styling is hideous and impractical. Also, the cramped seats make my back hurt. It feels like they are designed for little Asian people. Blech!
Wow you really make me want to own a Toyota thanks Joe. Better get a Dodge Dart instead I heard the sterio and 13 inch alloys were nice.
I completely agree about the cons you mentioned, Joe. My 98 4Runner, while still solid after 23 years, is very cramped. The seats are considerably smaller than other vehicles in the same class for that model year.
Ok, … I bite!
My immediate family owns one ‘19 Toyota, two ‘10 Hondas, and one ‘04 Mazda. Knock on wood, … none of above vehicles caused me any problems. Period! All four just do what they suppose to do. I just take care of all four, …
… above said, today, our Toyota is sloppiest handler out of the four, … not much fun to drive. Comparing to our CRV, … RAV4 always feels as on drugs. As exciting to operate as an LG washer and dryer residing our basement!
Built quality? Toyota is nice, … nicely finished, but too, too gimmicky. I did install a block heater in it, … what a surprise! Following Toyota’s specific instructions, all bunch of equipment in the engine bay, all bunch of wiring harnesses, etc. had to be removed first: … four hour job to stick a "short stick like heater" into the block! Seriously? This new Toyota is, hence - in my opinion only - is excessively complicated, … say, German-like systems, Beemer-like: cooling, lubrication, safety system, AWD system, … transmission! I dread the day when something will actually need some unscheduled service or repair.
Best built quality appears to be our Japanese-built Fit. CRV is second, … Toyota third. And Miata? … Duh, … it’s a Miata! A spaghetti on four wheels, … but it is Japanese-made, I see no deterioration after ~17 years of driving!
Anyway, … I hope that answers a bit of your query. Keep in mind that I’m comparing cars that span 17 years!
Best,
F.S.
P.S., … and RUST, one can’t forget the rust: … locally, here in Northern United States (Calgary, Alberta), cars rust, … our Toyota is too new, … but if one goes to a parking lot of a local food emporium and examines cars, Chrysler and Jeep tends to be worst - RAM the “worsest” still!, … than Korean cars, GM, Ford follows, … and Toyota is next. If, for example, I compare ‘10 CRV and ‘10 RAV4? I’m extremely glad that I bought CRV, … but that’s just me.
I own 2018 Auris for a few months now. So far so good. Will it last at least 15 years? I hope.
I have plenty to worry about with the drivers and the potholes and the deer and such where I live. But Toyotas may be habit-forming - 81 Celica, 83 Supra, 93 MR2, 96 Camry, 01 Sienna, 09 Matrix. The only one that was seriously worn when I sold it was the Camry at 350K.
Have had several older 4-runners '99, '02, '08. And currently have a '08 Highlander awd. Bought all used, and all have been pretty good. Kept up with the expected maintenance items. No matter what brand, once a vehicle get up in age and/or miles stuff is going to break and need to be repaired. For the most part they're easy to work on. There are some design elements that make certain jobs more difficult but they're still doable.
How do newer Toyotas hold up? Hard to say, we're currently looking for a new Corolla and really surprised to see a lot of 2019 - 2021 ones offered as used cars already, really low miles, and 50/50 as to the ones made in Japan or here in the US. And it's not just the Corolla, I've noticed the same trend in the models across the board. So who knows.
I have a 2014.5 camry se and love it. Its very quiet and a very comfortable, yet very sturdy riding car. Everyone that has ridden in it has complimented on how much they like the way it feels. I keep up on all scheduled maintenance and have had no issues. I have been told by many people including mechanics, that taken care of toyotas pretty much go forever.
I have 2, both 2004 models; a Prius and a Corolla S. The Corolla was bought new, the Prius in 2018 with 98k miles (which I now know from Scotty that buying a high mileage hybrid probably isn't a good idea..live and learn). The Corolla S now has about 159K miles on it, and I can tell you it has given me next to no major headaches..its been virtually trouble free and still drives good. Majority of the miles are actually stop-and-go city driving as well. The biggest problem Ive had with it is the catalytic converter and resonator pipes started to develop small leaking holes last year, but I was able to have them welded up at a muffler shop for cheap( I imagine this is due to living its entire life outside through many harsh winters). It's not a quiet car..it definitely produces some road noise, and its not a speed demon, although the acceleration is sufficient if you're a normal person and don't drag race. It does seem to sway a little here and there, but that's not a huge problem. I just replaced the original starter, so that lasted over 17 years. The paint has kept its original hue and still almost looks new when its clean, and the interior still looks good. Its proven to be a very reliable car over the years and Id absolutely recommend buying a new or used Corolla (just avoid the trouble years). I replaced the front struts about 6 years ago and left it to my mechanic to pick the brand; he went with standard quick struts which I greatly regret. The ride is much stiffer now. I really wish I had known this would happen, I would have paid through the nose for OEM suspension but I think it would have been worth it. The car does vibrate somewhat when idling , but nothing out of the ordinary for a 17 year old car.
The Prius has given me no trouble yet, aside from water leaking into the spare tire well ( I was able to have a body shop find and seal the leak points ). Also the catalytic converters on 2004-2009 Priuses are targeted by thieves due to the precious metals they contain, and mine was stolen last month (hopefully the metal plate I had installed underneath the car will prevent this from happening again). Ive taken it on several road trips for hundreds of miles with no problems. Its a very comfortable, smooth ride for a car its size. The acceleration on the Corolla is definitely stronger, but it's enough to merge into traffic when need be. Of course Id like it to be more zippy but what can you expect from a 17 year old Prius? Its been parked outside its whole life through many winters and is still holding up great. Paint and interior still look great. The fuel efficiency has decreased somewhat over the years, this may be due to an aging hybrid battery? Either way it definitely gets better mpg's than any other non-hybrid car.
I don't get the stigma with Toyotas; people say they're not cars for a "real man" or that its a "toy". Who cares what idiots think; to me they are excellent cars made by people with a passion for quality..why would you buy anything else (except of course a Lex or Honda/Acura maybe) ?
ugly and boring but last 2 decades. good mpg, cheap insurance, cheap parts, and reliable.
hondas are also very reliable but atleast theyre fun
I’ve owned a Honda Civic and I currently own a Toyota Camry. They’re both the most solid vehicles I’ve ever owned
Driving a rented Camry is just like driving my nice 1987 Reliant. The Toyota never leaked hot liquids over my shoes, which sort of disappointing