Hey Scotty, I decided I want a new car with all wheel drive cause I live in a mountain and if possible to be a hybrid as well and reliable.
I found the Suzuki ingnis what are your thoughts and can you suggest me one.
For those who don’t know, the Suzuki Ignis is smaller than a Nissan Micra/Honda Fit.
Parked next to a Fiesta -
As someone who has personal experience (unfortunately) with this paperweight, let me assure you not to get fooled by the hybrid tag. You’re much better off (& safer) with a Yaris/Jazz, than with this joke of a vehicle.
What are all your options, in your location?
Hello yes I have a 2000 Honda jazz with 250000 kilometres and lately it shows many problems. The options are Toyota,Honda,ford,suzuki
I suggest you stick with another Jazz or Yaris. Feel free to create a new question for the problems you’re experiencing in your present Jazz. Who knows, maybe some member can help you with diagnosis.
Just to illustrate how bad the economy is on the Ignis hybrid,
they claim it does 48.6 mpg UK with 4 wheel drive, mpg UK equals to 40 US (the UK halon is bigger)… and that’s the number the manufacturer claims not IRL performance, the irl number for mixed driving is probably around 35…
My 2014 Ford Focus Wagon with a comfortable interior, no turbo, no hybrid system does 36.5 mpg in mixed driving IRL (6.5L/100KM)
Small cars for fuel efficiency are a total scam, get a diesel if you want it to be efficient. A Renault captur 1.5 dci is a better option and more efficient.
Avoid it, the CVTs on these are piles of trash!
and the motorized manual is probably worse...
I assume you are not in the US, but regardless of where you live, stick to Toyota or Honda.
Ford, VW, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, Hyundai built outside of U.S. are of far superior quality than those built in the U.S. Don't be quick to assume toyota and honda are the be all and end all
But still far away from Toyota and Honda quality and reliability.
The Suzuki Ignis Hybrid isn’t a full hybrid like the Prius. It’s a mild hybrid. What’s the difference?
A full hybrid can run off the internal combustion engines, the electric motor, or both at the same time.
A mild hybrid is basically start stop technology, that turns the engine on and off if the car is idle. It’s not necessarily bad technology, just not what we think of when we think of hybrids.
If you are looking for a full hybrid, i recommend almost any Toyota hybrid. They have 20 years of time tested technology.
On Suzuki specifically, we don’t have them in the US, but I would jump at a chance to own some models. I love the simplicity of their user interface and practicality of their designs.
On the Ignis, I only recommend the second generation. Not the first. The first was built in partnership with GM, a company I’m not too fond of.
Suzuki uses Toyota hybrid systems, but between the rollover risk, terrible crash tests, and an unreliable CVT - I happen to think that the hybrid system is the least terrible part of this car...
@dan feel free to correct me on this one, but the original SHVS mild hybrid system was developed before Suzuki got into bed with Toyota..
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I herd mechanics use Toyota hybrid parts on Suzuki to improve their reliability.
The new Toyota-Suzuki partnership is somewhat different, That one isn't about sharing technology it's about Suzuki selling rebadged Toyota products: Like this almost 1:1 Rav4 now being called Suzuki Across
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/suzuki-across-toyota-rav4-based-suv-priced-%C2%A345599
It's not like Toyota are doing well either, they ruined the new Land Cruiser but putting in a 2.8L diesel that's rough and unreliable when strained with the weight of a Land Cruiser.
I maybe am planning on posting a list of Toyota's recent reliability fails cause as I feel, Toyota is going downhill...