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Spark advance massively retarded after cleaning throttle body and MAF sensor

  

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I just cleaned my MAF sensor and (electronic) throttle body. After cleaning and re-installation, I performed the recommended throttle valve relearn procedures per the service manual, and went on my way; and the car runs better than ever. Idle at operating temperature is still a tad bit higher than normal, but I'm sure the computer will relearn it over time.

However, while I had my scanner plugged in after a short test drive, I noticed something strange: the spark advance value which, BEFORE the cleaning had typically hovered around 14°-16° degrees at idle (engine fully warmed up), was NOW hovering at around 3°-6° degrees (again, with the engine at operating temperature).

Thus, my question: why would this occur, and could it be indicative of another issue or set of issues? Vehicle in question is a 2002 Nissan Maxima with the 3.5L engine.


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From what you've said, it sounds like you removed the throttle body from the engine bay. Maybe it's an issue with the throttle body position sensor (use a multimeter to test for that). I'm just guessing here, but a messed up throttle body position sensor would send grossly inaccurate data to the ECM, and that could be what's causing the spark degree differential. 

 


I did disconnect it and remove it from the engine bay to clean it. TPS does seem like a potential cause; the car has about 103,500 miles on it and I doubt it's ever been touched. I'll grab a multimeter and do some looking around. Still odd to me that the car runs just fine, even with such a retarded spark advance, though...


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The other thing I can think of goes to the sprays that were used. I'm assuming that you used the appropriate sprays (like CRC MAF spray) for the MAF and a throttle body (or carb clean) spray for the TB. But, maybe you should double check that . . . I've made inexplicable mistakes in the past (tired, distracted, just not paying enough attention). It happens, from time-to-time, to everyone.


I used CRC TB cleaner and CRC MAF sensor cleaner. I was very careful to avoid picking up the wrong can (to the point of even placing the TB cleaner a good 6 feet away from my working area while I was cleaning the MAF sensor).


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Test the components. Here's a link on how to test a MAF sensor.

https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/How-to-Troubleshoot-a-Mass-Airflow-Sensor#:~:text=Set%20your%20meter%20at%20or,to%200.80%20volts%20at%20idle.

You can be rather scientistic about it. Test components, and if they test "as good," test their connectors (ground and power), check the wires, etc. 

 


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