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2017 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid worse fuel economy

  

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Scotty - Thanks for your efforts - love your channel and the information you provide.  I have a 2017 Sonata hybrid, that got the advertised 41-43MPG.  When I brought the car to the dealer for a warranty repair (exhaust pipe flange failure), they installed their Engine Monitoring Logic (Campaign 966) due to pre-mature engine failures.  When I got the car back, I had noticed major changes (engine runs 95% of the time, battery charging profile much different/keeps it higher, etc) and I now get 30-33MPG.  I brought it back to the dealer three times with the request that they provide the car back to me in the condition they got it (41-43MPG).  Their current response is that the car scans ok/nothing they can do with no failure codes. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.  Thank you, Hank W.


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You may take it to another dealer to check the car, but some people mentioned similar symptoms that you have after getting the recall done:

https://www.hyundai-forums.com/threads/recall-for-service-campaign-953-knock-sensor-detection-system.665153/


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If they refuse to do anything you could always try to contact corporate.  Unfortunately if nothing is showing wrong you might not get any where. 


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I wonder if the engine monitoring logic intentionally keeps the engine on 95% of the time, to prevent premature engine failure. 


Yea, that’s probably what the monitoring logic update does. Just to add prospective on how keeping it running longer can help avoid damage: On many Hyundai-Kia Hybrids the engine would never reach operating temperature and would develop all kinds of different failures. (for some reason, they do not have a system that’d keep the engine oil at op-temp)
Also unlike Toyota with integrated motor-generators - Hyundai-Kia have one of the Motor-Generators in place of the alternator spinning up the engine for start using the accessory belt… this probably does also cause quite a bit of additional wear… (at least on the Kappa II power trains)
I genuinely see why keeping the engine running can help improve longevity. It’s a shame, I had very high hopes for their hybrid tech but as it seems - Toyota are the only ones that got it 100% at the moment.


Fascinating.


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As it seems, Hyundai decided that’s what necessary to help avoid premature engine failure.

If you really want that 10MPG back, I’d try calling Hyundai dealerships to find one that’s willing to do a software downgrade although they’re probably not allowed to do that.


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