2018 Honda Accord 1.5 liter turbo. July 2021 my car error warning lights all started coming up. They would go on and off. Stay on for 2 days, go off for a day etc etc. After a few days of this I took my car into the dealer and they said I needed new fuel injectors. My car was 3 months out of warranty as this is only covered under the 3 year bumper to bumper and NOT the power train. They quoted me $1412 repair fee. I called American Honda and got a case number for a warranty goodwill. This was after I called 4 different car mechanics and all 4 were shocked that I would need new fuel injectors at just 25,000. After 4 months of waiting for Honda to give me an answer, they denied my claim stating the car was out of warranty. I knew that already which was why I called for the goodwill case number. Frustrating. So I called around again and no one seems to want to work on my car, so I guess I'm going to have to cough up the $1400 plus money and get it fixed on my own. My question is what the likelyhood of my fuel injectors being defective? I read lots of info online and the Honda CRV, Ridgeline trucks ad Odessy vehichles from 2016 to 2019 all had defective fuel injectors and that they have now recalled those and extended the warranty on the fuel injectors to 10 years or 150 miles. Does fuel injectors go bad at 25,000? I only drive about 8,000 miles a year.
The typical issue with a 1.5L Honda is the ignition coils going bad, try that first - 4 fuel injectors at only 25,000 miles seems impossible and improbable.
Go to an independent mechanic that can test your injectors because it's really hard to believe that all 4 would go out at only 25k. Also, It might be a good idea to go to another Honda dealer and see what they think. this just seems a bit too odd to me. get it scanned with a high-level scan tool, and just get them tested.
That being an 2018 Accord, I'd worry more about oil dilution and the CVT transmission (get the gearbox oil replaced every 37.5k miles)
TO CHECK FOR RECALLS: https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls , Honda has been recalling millions of vehicles (at least 1.4 million last year in the US alone) on many occasions so there might be a recall you're unaware of. It used to be quite controversial when anyone dared to to call out Honda's reliability on this forum, but I guess with how their new cars are built - that might change in the coming years.
There is a fuel pump recall for 2018-2019 Honda Accords according to NHTSA. Not sure if OPs vehicle is affected too because obviously I don't know their VIN# but they might want to check for this issue too.
Nobody is above being called out. Shame where shame is due!
I never got the impression we were somehow protecting any company.
Just came across this so it seems you're not alone with this issue. They were able to get Honda to fix it so might want to try more to get them to fix yours too at their own cost.
This is genuinely fascinating - also that’s probably the reason why Honda “doesn’t consider the fuel injectors as part of the powertrain” - they probably just knew that they made the worst fuel injectors in the industry and decided to screw over the owners.
This also reminds me of the issue with the air conditioning on the 10th get Civic which people though lawsuits finally got Honda to extend the warranty on it to 10 years and no mileage restriction. So maybe if this fuel injector problem happens to enough people they could get it to the point of Honda having to fix it/replace it at their own cost for all affected vehicles.
Have the fuel pressure tested mechanically to eliminate the fuel pump as a possibility.
Before you start replacing or repairing ANYTHING ... run a diagnostic scan on your vehicle. Make a list of the trouble codes it spits out. Look them up online. obd-codes.com is good.
All this has been meticulously explained in our Frequently Asked Questions link, which you should always read first.
You should not need fuel injectors at 25k. Everybody is just walking you down the garden path.
Very simple: test the injectors and see what your spray patterns look like. This will tell you if you have issues.
While some owners manuals, mostly very recent ones, will state to use top tier gas, I do not think even using the poorest fuel would damage injectors at that mileage. That is not fact, but my educated opinion based on what I've seen/heard.
Lots of good advice being given in this thread:
1. Run an OBD diagnostic test
2. Test the injectors
3. Pressure test the fuel pump
4. Check the ignition coils
These are all good things to do and I would do all of them until you find the problem. Just about the only way, in my opinion, that an injector would go bad that early would be if they had a manufacturing flaw or defect of some kind. I have no insight as to how Honda makes their hardware, but if this is a common issue I believe that could be the case.
The only reason I can think of, that fuel injectors would go bad (besides receiving faulty injectors), is NOT using top tier gas.
Many car manuals recommend to only use top tier gas in the vehicle.
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The recommendation to use top tier gas or the guess at what the problem could be.
you will not get failed injectors, or trouble lights, at 25k miles, because you didn't use magical gas. Use your head.
Highly unlikely, yes. I think it is just bad parts too, like I said above. Just throwing out those random possibilities.
Total insanity. At first I was going to say it was the usual stealership hijinks, but from what others are saying this is a known problem on some Honda engines.
I've been driving fuel injected cars since the 1980s and have never needed to replace fuel injectors, just run some cleaner through if they get a little wonky. What is Honda making those things out of, old beer cans? Cardboard? Paper mâché?
me too
