Hyundai Motor Group (HMG) Problems
Like Chuck said above, my daughters 2013 Santafe Sport engine IMPLODED when I took it to get pizza for the family!!!!!! Had 70k miles and was over maintained by me! Incredible!!!! Luckily Hyundai covered with and entire NEW longblock replacement. Took 9 weeks due to pandemic crap with logistics and boats sitting in the harbor. Hate to say it but NOBODY is more committed to Quality than the Japanese. I worked as an engineer in product development with them on new product designs and they were all about "root cause" and "counter measures" when fixing and qualifying design issues. I guess thats why I now have Honda and Toyota products.
Kia had to replace the engine in this Sorento 9 times, and the transmission 4 times.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/600k-mile-kia-sorento-driver-milks-10-year-warranty-for-9-engines
KIA SOULS ARE HYBRIDS= They burn gas AND OIL!!!! LOL!! 🤣 🤣 😆 😪 😝 😜
Rash of HMG car fires in Texas
Car safety advocates say the recall is too limited.
" ... there's a much larger universe of vehicles -- somewhere in the millions -- that they've chosen not to recall that continues to put drivers of vehicles at the same risk as those for whom they issued the recall," says Levine.
The recall doesn't include the King's car. The 2011 Hyundai Sonata that burst into flames on FM 1431 in Round Rock was recalled, repaired and still caught fire."
Jason Levine, executive director for the Center for Auto Safety.
The Kia Carnival (Sedona) has a Lambda engine which is known for rattling valves which are very expensive to fix. It has been recalled for fires, over and over. The thing is, Kia doesn't know how to make engines. They've recalled six million vehicles just since 2015 for fire risk, and millions more are under investigation now (right up to current models). Their engines and transmissions often fail or catch fire days after leaving the factory. They've been fined a quarter of a billion dollars, because they knowingly ignore problems, and paid billions more in settlements to affected customers to shut them up.
- https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/kia-sedona-minivan-recalled-fire-risk/
- https://mednews365.com/kia-recalls-vehicles-for-fire-risk/
North America
"Over the last several years, Kia and Hyundai have recalled more than 6.5 million vehicles for defects that could cause fires including models from 2010 all the way to brand new 2021 vehicles"
Hyundai/Kia Fire and Engine Recalls from 2010 | TOTAL | |||||
12,659,816 | ||||||
Recall Date | NHTSA Recall ID | Vehicle Make | Vehicle Model(s) | # Vehicles Recalled | Fire? | URL |
2010-08-31 | 10V388 | KIA | 2010 Soul, 2011 Sorento | 35,185 | ||
2011-04-25 | 11V256 | KIA | 2004-07 Spectra | 58,322 | ||
2013-04-01 | 186,000 | Airbags | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2013/hyundai-elantra-recall-air-bag-problem.shtml | |||
2013-04-01 | 623,000 | Brakes | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2013/kia-recalls-brake-light-switch.shtml | |||
2013-04-01 | 1,700,000 | Brakes | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2013/hyundai-recalls-brake-light-switch.shtml | |||
2013-04-01 | Canada | 361,000 | Brakes | https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/hyundai-kia-recall-361-000-canadian-vehicles-1.1381578 | ||
2015-01-16 | 15V015 | KIA | 2014 Forte | 86,880 | ||
2015-09-04 | 15V566 | HYUNDAI | 2009-2011 Accent | 99,500 | Brakes | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/hyundai-recalls-cars-engine-fires.shtml |
2015-09-10 | 15V568 | HYUNDAI | 2011-2012 Sonata | 470,000 | Engine | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/hyundai-recalls-cars-engine-fires.shtml |
2015-09-25 | 2015428 | HYUNDAI | 2011-2012 Sonata | 33,786 | Engine | Transport Canada Recall # 2015-428 |
2016-11-10 | 16V815 | KIA | 2008-09 Sportage | 71,704 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2016/kia-recalls-sportage-engine-fire-complaints.shtml |
2017-03-31 | 17V224 | KIA | 2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage 2012-2014 Sorento |
618,160 | ||
2017-03-31 | 17V226 | HYUNDAI | 2013-2014 Sonata and Santa Fe Sport | 572,000 | ||
2017-09-20 | 17V578 | HYUNDAI | 2017 Santa Fe | 420 | ||
2017-09-21 | 17V586 | KIA | 2017 Sorento | 62 | ||
2018-01-09 | 18V026 | HYUNDAI | 2006 Sonata, 2006-11 Azera | 87,854 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/hyundai-recalls-azera-sonata-fire-dangers.shtml |
2018-04-20 | 18V257 | KIA | 2017 Niro | 27,029 | ||
2018-04-24 | 18V260 | HYUNDAI | 2017 Ioniq | 10,156 | ||
2018-09-25 | 18V666 | KIA | 2017-2018 Niro | 27,030 | ||
2018-10-05 | 18V704 | HYUNDAI | 2017-18 Ioniq | 10,575 | ||
2018-10-25 | 18V754 | KIA | 2018 Stinger | 16,011 | ||
2018-12-19 | 18V907 | KIA | 2011-2014 Optima, 2011-2013 Sportage 2012-2014 Sorento |
71,653 | ||
2018-12-28 | 18V934 | HYUNDAI | 2011-2014 Sonata 2013-14 Santa Fe Sport |
150,730 | ||
2019-02-05 | 19V063 | HYUNDAI | 2011-13 Tucson | 120,000 | ||
2019-02-15 | 19V101 | KIA | 2011-12 Sportage | 32,296 | ||
2019-02-22 | 19V120 | KIA | 2012-16 Soul | 378,967 | ||
2019-03-14 | 19V204 | HYUNDAI | 2013 Veloster | 16,487 | ||
2020-02-04 | 20V061 | HYUNDAI | 2007-2010 Elantra 2009-2011 Elantra Touring |
476,111 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-elantra-and-elantra-touring-cars-recalled-fires.shtml |
2020-02-14 | 20V088 | KIA | 2006-2010 Sedona and 2007-2009 Sorento | 228,829 | ||
2020-02-21 | 20V100 | KIA | 2013-2014 Optima | 141,774 | ||
2020-02-21 | 20V101 | KIA | 2011-2012 Sedona | 51,465 | ||
2020-02-28 | 20V121 | HYUNDAI | 2013-2014 Sonata | 206,896 | ||
2020-07-02 | 20V393 | HYUNDAI | 2011-2012 Elantra and Sonata Hybrid 2012 Accent and Veloster |
272,126 | ||
2020-07-08 | 20V399 | KIA | 2020 Sedona | 5,385 | ||
2020-08-27 | 20V518 | KIA | 2019 Stinger | 9,443 | ||
2020-08-27 | 20V519 | KIA | 2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento | 440,370 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/kia-hecu-recall-engine-fires.shtml |
2020-08-27 | 20V520 | HYUNDAI | 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport | 151,205 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-engine-fires-recall.shtml |
2020-09-04 | 20V543 | HYUNDAI | 2016-2021 Tucson | 652,054 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2020/hyundai-tucson-recall-12-fires.shtml |
2020-10-13 | 20V630 | HYUNDAI | 2019-2020 Kona | 6,707 | ||
2020-12-01 | 20V746 | HYUNDAI | 2012 Santa Fe 2011-13 and 2016 Sonata Hybrid 2015-16 Veloster |
128,948 | ||
2020-12-02 | 20V750 | KIA | 2012-2013 Sorento 2012-2015 Forte and Forte Koup 2011-2013 Optima Hybrid 2014-2015 Soul 2012 Sportage |
294,756 | ||
2020-12-30 | 2020648 | HYUNDAI | 2016-2021 Tucson | 144,700 | 🔥 | Transport Canada Recall # 2020-648 |
2021-03-01 | 21V127 | HYUNDAI | 2019-2020 Hyundai Kona Electric 2020-2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric |
4,696 | 🔥 | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2021/RCLRPT-21V127-1095.PDF |
2021-03-04 | 21V137 | KIA | 2017-19 Cadenza, 2017-21 Sportage | 379,931 | ||
2021-03-10 | 21V160 | HYUNDAI | 2015-16 Genesis, 2017-2020 Genesis G80 | 94,646 | ||
2021-03-10 | 21V161 | HYUNDAI | 2019-21 Genesis G70 | 552 | ||
2021-03-25 | 21V208 | HYUNDAI | 2021 Genesis G80, GV80 | 147 | ||
2021-04-01 | Canada | KIA | 2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul | 19,634 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml |
2021-04-13 | 21V259 | KIA | 2021 Seltos, 2020-21 Soul | 147,249 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/kia-recalls-souls-and-seltos-after-engine-fires.shtml |
2021-04-21 | 21V277 | KIA | 2022 Kia Carnival | 2,744 | ||
2021-04-28 | 21V301 | HYUNDAI | 2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster | 125,840 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml |
2021-04-28 | 21V303 | HYUNDAI | 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport | 151,205 | 🔥 (re-recall) | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-abs-recall-fires.shtml |
2021-05-01 | Canada | HYUNDAI | 2019-20 Elantra, 2019-21 Kona and Veloster | 61,000 | 🔥 | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-nu-engine-recall-piston-oil-rings.shtml |
2021-05-01 | TC2021253 | HYUNDAI | 2013-15 Santa Fe Sport | 52,304 | 🔥 (re-recall) | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-santa-fe-sport-abs-recall-fires.shtml |
2021-05-01 | 1,500 | Seats | https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2021/hyundai-recalls-2021-elantra-seatback-problems.shtml | |||
2021-05-03 | 21V308 | HYUNDAI | 2021 Santa Fe | 2 | 🔥 | |
2021-05-10 | 21V331 | KIA | 2013-15 Optima and 2014-15 Sorento | 440,270 | ||
2021-07-08 | 21V519 | KIA | 2021 Sorento, 2021-22 K5 | 21,575 | ||
2021-07-09 | 21V524 | HYUNDAI | 2021-22 Santa Fe, Sonata | 15,752 | ||
2021-09-17 | 21V727 | HYUNDAI | 2017 Hyundai Tucson, Sonata Hybrid | 95,515 | ||
2022-01-25 | 22V031 | KIA | 2017-2019 Soul, Sedona, Forte | 410,619 | Airbags | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V031-6787.PDF |
2022-01-25 | Canada | 58,000 | Airbags | |||
2022-02-02 | 22V051 | KIA | 2016-2018 Kia K900 | 126,747 | 🔥 | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V051-3267.pdf |
2022-02-03 | 22V056 | HYUNDAI | 2016-2018 Hyundai Santa Fe | 357,830 | 🔥 | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V056-6220.pdf |
2022-02-03 | Canada | 80,926 | 🔥 | |||
2022-05-06 | 22V312 | HYUNDAI | 2013-2014 Sonata | 215,171 | 🔥 (re-recall) | https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/11/hyundai-sonata-fuel-line-recall/ |
2022-05-19 | 22V354 | HYUNDAI | 2019-2022 Hyundai Accent 2021-2023 Hyundai Elantra |
239,000 | seatbelt shrapnel | https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40104435/hyundai-recall-exploding-seatbelts/ |
2022-08-18 | 22V626 | KIA | 2020-2022 Telluride | 36,417 | 🔥 | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V626-4406.PDF |
2022-08-18 | 22V633 | HYUNDAI | 2020-2022 Palisade | 245,030 | 🔥 | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V633-4843.PDF |
2022-08-18 | Canada | 6,871 | 🔥 | |||
2022-09-19 | 22V703 | KIA | 2016-2023 Sorento, Sportage | 70,887 | 🔥 | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V703-6415.PDF |
2022-10-06 | 22V746 | HYUNDAI | 2021-2022 Hyundai Santa Fe, Santa Criz, Sonata, Veloster, Elantra, Kona | 53,142 | DCT | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCLRPT-22V746-3189.PDF |
2022-10-06 | 22V760 | KIA | 2021-2023 K5, Sorento | 69,038 | DCT | https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCAK-22V760-2899.pdf |
2022-10-06 | Canada | 8,700 + | DCT |
Coworker recently lost an engine in her Kia Soul at 70,000 miles.
She said they replaced it with no question.
Had to wait several weeks because of an engine backlog.
Brand new 2022 Sorento
This is the reason for 2020 Elantra engine recalls.
A month after I bought my brande new 2021 Camry, I parked next to a Hyundai Sonata in front of a coffee shop. The Sonata suddenly started smoking. I moved my car out of the way just minutes before the Sonata turnes into a fireball.
Newest addition to the Kia/Hyundai mess.
KIA AND HYUNDAI ARE TOTAL CRIMINALS ON THIS!!!! Do a quick google search and you'll see in April of '22 a Class action lawsuit has FINALLY been brought against Hyundai / Kia for EVERY 4 cylinder car they've made in the last 10 years and , because of car shortage , they are totally getting away with this. It's NOT normal. It is a risk of fire with excessive oil. It will destroy the mass air flow sensor, any one who says "Just add oil" has no idea what they are talking about. My new 2020 Soul only had 9,000 on it and started burning 1/2 quart every 1,000 miles. Sold it that day! DO NOT EVER buy a Kia. The "fix" aka, software is a "knock sensor" which means "IF" it even works, and I know no-one that's ever seen the sensor notify, it would bee too late.... if the pistons are knocking, at the point the engine is already destroyed. EVERY SINGLE 2.0 KIA engine should be replaced. The service tech at the Horne Kia in Gilbert AZ could not hold a straight face after I brought the car in 2 times. I went to to buy an oil filter and was talking the the parts guy at the same dealer.... told me he was looking for a new job... It was non stop people coming in with the same oil burning problem. Thanks for letting me bitch and moan LOL. There are so few places talking about this and it's wrong. Kia Souls 2020 through 2022 have an engine defect and burn oil. Do not buy!!!
Another Scotty listener's Hyundai makes the news.
" I purchased a 2017 hyunfai sante fe ... It had 66k miles on it ... burned down to the ground."
https://carkiller.com/scottykilmer/qa/mazdas-2/
You can’t make this stuff up.
It's like a joke that never ends. Now 2023 Hyundai's are being recalled for catching fire. How are they still in business?
Fire started by 2018 Hyundai Elantra parked next to 100 year old house.
The family sleeping inside became trapped and narrowly escaped. Kids had to be dropped off the deck.
Mother who watched son burn to death in SUV fire joins calls for answers from Kia, Hyundai
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/calls-for-answers-from-hyundai-kia-following-recalls-1.5200078
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but…just worked a phone shift at a local agency. Every, I mean every, call I got from a recovered stolen vehicle owner was either a Hyundai or Kia. Mostly Hyundai, and mostly Elantra. Haven’t done a phone shift for a very long time so I didn’t expect this. It used to be a mixture of older Civics and F150s and Silverados and some other cars. I read about it and watched Scotty’s videos mentioning the immobilizer (or lack of), but I just can’t believe it’s been so long and Hyundai is doing nothing to help these poor vehicle owners. People having to take time off from work to get their cars back and having to pay tow/storage fees and all kinds of hassle. Absolutely infuriating. 😡
It's shameful, no doubt. I'm no fan of Hyundai.
But most owners should be aware of this problem by now. Why aren't they taking steps to secure their vehicle?
Maybe they're hoping for an insurance payout.
Hi there Scotty, I just discovered a major problem with my brand new 2022 Kia Soul EV. I saw this video on YouTube where the guy explained that essentially his re-gen and regular brakes failed without warning and almost caused him to crash. And it was a brand new one like mine as well. There have also been other reports of older Kia Soul electrics with this same problem happening to others. And one person was unfortunately not so lucky and they hit someone. Anyways, this guy in the video also mentioned that Kia has done nothing to address the problem and when the guy contacted the company directly they wouldn’t respond too him. And the dealership service where he got the brakes fixed was crappy as well, which is also the same case where I live when we bought the car. Anyways, now I’m concerned for my moms safety as it’s her car. We do have a 10 year 160,000km warranty, but I’m not sure what to do. Should I not worry about it too much unless it happens? Or if I see this problem continue should I try and get my mom to trade it in for a different car like a Prius or a RAV4 Prime? We are required to keep the car until next august if we want to get the government incentives. We’re in Canada just fyi. Here is the video down below and the forums of other people explaining this problem. Let me know what I should do.
https://www.kianiroforum.com/threads/brake-failure.2105/
https://www.reddit.com/r/KiaNiro/comments/d6y80d/check_regen_brake_noticebrakes_failed/
Hi Scotty
Regards from southwestern Africa (Namibia).
Can you please view your honest opinion on this matter of these Hyundai and Kia's catching fire?
How do you find yours in a shopping mall parking lot? Look for the smoke.
Santa drives a Kia Sorento. It's parked outside his Florida vacation retreat. He put a GDI turbo emblem on the back door so would be thieves would pass his up and steal one of his neighbors cars.
I have had two potential fire hazards on the 4 Hyundai/Kia's I have owned. Luckily I found them before they went up. One was a leak in the fuel rail on a 2011 SantaFe. Fuel was being spraying all over the engine compartment. The second was on my Sorento which was brand new at the time. The brake fluid reservoir had a crack in it that was leaking brake fluid on the exhaust manifold. Both were recall items and were fixed by the dealers for free. That doesn't help much if the car goes up in flames before you catch it. I religiously inspect under the hood once a week and I keep up with the maintenance. I traded in two Hyundai's in the last two years and got two Kia's. Both had over 150K but were still in good working order. That being said they are cheap cars. People who buy them think because they are cheap they don't need maintenance.
By the way Toyota's are having fires also. These GDI systems the car companies are using are pressurizing the fuel at insane levels. Any leak can start a fire in seconds. The other fire hazard trend in all cars is the percentage of plastic being used on the engines. Intake manifolds. radiators and oil filter manifolds are all plastic. Plastic cracks and breaks and that's where the fire hazards start.
Responsible spokesmen with opposing view points are welcome to comment.
Here is my question. How do the car companies get away with making the emergency brake electric? Isn't the emergency brake supposed to be functional no matter what goes wrong with the car? What happens if there is an electrical system failure? Wouldn't that render the emergency brake useless? Is this the way all cars are going?
Just don't tell my wife.
Hyundai car maker's are absolutely lazy!!The lowbeam headlights are not adjusted properly at the plants.Why?The purchaser has to get them adjusted to see at night!! Hyundai car maker's Suck!!!
Some more Kia craftsmanship ...
Turn signals indicate the wrong way!
Another mechanic weighs in...
ONE OF MY TEACHER JUST BOUGHT NEW 2024 A KIA SELTOS AND IT BURNS RODESIDE AND THE ENGINE BLEW UP