I currently have a 2017 honda accord sport se with the 4 cylinder and cvt with 17,000 miles. Should I trade it in for the 2017 accord V6 with a six speed auto with 23,600 miles?
Thanks and hope all is well.
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Lol I get where you're coming from. having worked at a stealership for 2 years and couldn't stand being at that job, I know their little games so I'm not worried about getting screwed. Plus I'm not financing. I'm gonna payoff the difference right there and then if I were to go for it which would be about $3,600. However, I just want something reliable. I know accords are reliable with the 4 cylinder I'm just not too crazy about the CVT. I already got them to knock it down $1,500 below what they wanted and $1,000 more for my car than what's on KBB.
My only thought is that if you plan to keep the vehicle for as long as possible and try to extract as much mileage from it, the CVT may not be the way to go. I’m sure some people may report lots of mileage on their CVTs with minimal issues (and that is great!) but for longevity I’d go with the automatic for peace of mind. Honda’s are not known in general for their transmissions to begin with, so why mess with a CVT?
Thanks for the input man. I was told the same about the longevity of the automatic compared to the CVT. I'll be honest, I didn't bother to really question the quality of the CVT because it came from honda and I've had 2 family members with an accord with the CVT and they haven't had problems. But then again, they only have 65,000 and 72,000 miles trouble free on them. which if I'm being honest it's good but not impressive. If it was around 150,000 miles trouble free then I'd feel better. But maybe I'm just being picky as well lol.
I forgot about that - if you know how to drive a manual you may want to think about that too.
daywalker, here is also a question you might want to consider. The reliability of the transmission in a 1 ton Accord with a traditional Honda automatic paried to a 278 horsepower V6 vs a Honda CVT used for 5 years in the Accord paried to a 4 cylinder engine.
@Kerem now did Honda ever resolve the V6 engine with AT issue for that generation? I would personally get a manual but that’s me.
Oh yeah definetly the 3.5 manual is your best bet on those I don't know if the issue was resolved but I don't think so. In fact I just opened carcomplaints and 84% of the transmission issues (2016) were documented for the V6. Through what the owners there said, most of the 4 cylinder transmission complaints happen at like 1500 miles are early problems whether it be software covered by warranty etc. but the V6 happen more often at different miles. But I'm not sure whether its too common. But there is no arguing the Camry transmission is better is what I would like to say but from around 2010-2016; 2018 they had transmission issues so no fun there.
It doesn't seem that smart financially btw the 6 cylinders have a tendency to burn out the transmissions especially in the heavy Accord and the CVT has been out since 2013 so the kinks are worked out Honda does have weaker auto transmissions but they solved the CVT issues after a couple years and they are pretty good plus if its working why get rid of it the ONLY issue I found on the internet for that model year is that the seats are uncomfortable nothing mechanical. Also, you would loose a ton of money because the dealerships would screw you over. If you want an Accord with a V6, you better get a manual transmission like someone above said. 17k miles is nothing. Plus, you could get a lto better money for it private party rather than dealer especially if your in California or someplace like that because clean title low mileage Hondas are hard to find believe it or not and the premium people pay is crazy, trading it in doesn't sound like a good decision but thats my opinion.
Hope this helps!
Thanks man. That's good to know about the 6 cylinder and that there is no mechanical fault for 2017. Gives me some comfort lol. This does help a lot. every perspective helps my decision making process. Much appreciated!!
I checked on carcomplaints.com which is basically a website which lets owners put the issues they experienced. I did find a good few transmission complaints, but I noticed all of them occured around 1500 or 5000 miles so early on from the factory.
If yours doesn't have issues, I'd just drive it. 17k is not a lot. As a forum, when we say Hondas have week automatic transmissions, we don't mean it fails at 30k miles regurarly or even 100k miles. Usually the do last a while and if you want to get another car, the depreication on yours has been done significantly and its a sellers market, so it would be better to wait a bit more since the amount of money you would get for a 4 year old car with 17k miles is not that different than lets say a 6 year old car with 30k miles.
Why? The Honda Accord is a perfectly good car. I wouldn’t risk trading it in for a car that somebody else’s car.
Appreciate the feedback. Well I bought the Current one that I have preowned, and I've heard some people say that the V6 with the six speed is more reliable. That's why I'm considering it. I plan on keeping the car until the engine drops. So, do you think the 4 cylinder with the cvt is reliable?
The CVT on the Honda is one of the best CVTs ever made. But with that being said, I have herd that they’re slightly unreliable and do wear out fast if you drive like a maniac.
I am unfamiliar with the exact failure points of this gearbox.
But with that being said, the 6 speed automatic is probably better built. Although they’re also very prone to failure, I saw a lot of them (U760 6 speed) have constant issues with the main trust bearing, failures of the frictions C1 C2, the shift selector circuit, and on cars that aren’t properly maintain the valve body tends to cause issues.
All of these Uber complex cheaply built automatics are not that good.
If you want a car that will run until the engine drops, I’d advise you to get a manual.
The thing is that both cars are so well built, the one that will last the longest depends more on good maintenance, driving habits but mostly on pure luck.
I think financially it would be a bad decision. I would keep what you have, especially since you aren't having issues.
Thanks for your feedback man. I Keep thinking on the financial part as well. That's honestly what's also stopping me from making the move. But I also just want the most out of my money. And with that CVT idk if that can happen. And in terms of issues I don't have major ones thankfully, however I had the blend door actuator give out 3 months into owning it.
Get something with a manual trans if you can. You'll be a lot happier and wealthier with a manual than you will be with either the auto or the CVT.
Man I would If I knew How to drive manual. I know those standard transmissions are pretty much bulletproof.
It would take you about fifteen minutes to learn how. And you would have the peace of mind knowing that nobody these days would steal your car because they couldn't drive it.
Well I never thought about that as well. Might have to just force myself into learning how to drive a manual transmission lol. Reliability and security. Thanks for the input man. I might just take the extra money and use it on some classes for driving stick instead. save up some more and maybe trade it in for a manual vehicle.
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I double checked and besides the 3.5L V6 engine potentially burning out the automatic transmission, the V6 engine (J35Y1) also came with cylinder deactivation which over time may wear out and damage your engine. Yes, there are aftermarket devices to disable it (via software) but the hardware is still intact and could potentially still fail down the line. Apparently the V6 (J35Y2) with manual didn’t have cylinder deactivation, but moot point since OP doesn’t know how to drive manual.
I would then just stick with what you got.
You guys are awesome. I really appreciate all the feedback you guys gave me. It does mean alot. I'm 22 and I was fortunate enough to pay it off after 5 months of owning it. I paid it off last month. This is my first car, and I just want the best out of the car. I've decided to just keep the accord. I'll drive it until it gives out. And of course I will maintenance it correctly. But I do appreciate all of you guys helping me with this decision. Whenever I go to buy my next car, I'll be sure to know how to drive standard transmission cars and buy a car with a standard transmission. So thank you guys, stay safe and drive safe 🙏.
As with most Honda transmissions, the key to longevity for either the CVT or 6-speed auto is frequent changes (every 25k of the HCF2 fluid, for DW-1 fluid it's change at the first 15k and then every 30k miles thereafter). This is from experience from owning and maintaining about 18 Hondas over 40 years. As it stands now I have 132k trouble-free miles on my Accord 2.4L 4-cylinder/CVT and have been changing the HCF2 fluid every 25k miles without fail, and using the Honda brand HCF2 from the dealer.
By "Change" in the above, I mean a drain-and-fill. Do NOT let anyone do a "flush" of your ATF on these transmissions. The one possible exception to the change frequency enhancing Honda transmission longevity is my wife's current (2019) Odyssey, which unfortunately has the German ZF 9-speed transmission. I am still following the schedule outlined above and so far so good but at just 46k miles on it, it's a little too soon to tell whether it will make it last. With the Honda 3.1 ATF going for well over $25 per QUART, it darn sure better help.